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Ep. 18 Leaky Systems: Agentic AI Hack, Dams and Drought, & States Stepping Up
Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon
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In this episode of Understandable Insights, Sue and Eric break down a new milestone in AI operations: an agentic hack using Claude that orchestrates tools together. They explain what’s actually new about the attack, why intent plus AI scale is the real risk, and how governments, companies, media, and citizens should think about Who’s Responsible in this next phase. From there, they turn to water security as national security—tracing a line from Iran’s dams to the Colorado River, the Ogallala Aquifer, and the messy question of who decides when the water runs short: local, state, or federal leaders. Finally, they look at COP30 in the Amazon, where Washington is largely absent while governors, mayors, and other ‘subnational’ leaders show up on the global stage, raising the stakes for who will influence the climate and infrastructure rules that shape national security for decades to come. They close with What We’re Watching: Japan’s new prime minister angering China with comments about Taiwan, whether FEMA’s future could be in Texas, the Venezuelan president’s pending designation, and Saudi Arabia’s meeting at the White House.
Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction to Understandable Insights
00:51 Vanity Fair Article
03:20 Agentic AI Hack
08:23 Who's Responsible? Government, Private Sector, Media, and Citizens
16:18 Open vs. Closed Source AI Models
22:31 Water Security and National Security
26:20 Global Water Scarcity and Its Impacts
27:52 US-Mexico Water Treaty and Legislative Actions
29:15 Aquifers and the Great Plains Farm Belt
29:55 Challenges in US Water Management
34:17 Trust and Government Responsibility
36:34 COP 30 and US Climate Policy
43:05 What We’re Watching
Articles:
Disrupting the first reported AI-orchestrated cyber espionage campaign
Meet Sue Gordon, the Former Deputy of National Intelligence Who Podcasts About Trump’s “Vice and Graft” From Her Living Room
About the show:
Understandable Insights: Information to Intelligence with Sue Gordon is the national security podcast that provides you an elemental understanding of the world as it is, not how you prefer it to be.
Each week, Eric Koepp — a former Marine, father, and entrepreneur — sits down with the Honorable Sue Gordon, the nation’s former top career intelligence officer. Together, they break down the headlines shaping our world and ask what they really mean for citizens, leaders, and institutions.
From armed conflict to emerging tech, foreign interference to the resilience of democracy — this is where raw information becomes real intelligence. Unfiltered. Candid. Unapologetically clear.
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