In this passionate and deeply honest episode of We Recover Loudly, host Shell sits down with Glen Rowe: 32 years in the music industry and counting, legendary tour manager, mental health advocate, and founder of KYOTO Music and the charity KATO Trust. Together they explore what it means to recover, reconnect, and reimagine an industry you’ve spent your life inside.
Glen shares his journey from obsessive teenage drummer to touring the world with Muse, Craig David, and countless others — building a career behind the scenes of music’s biggest stages. But alongside the success came personal sacrifice, burnout, and the quiet grief of a life always in motion. After heartbreak and a night that left him questioning his relationship with alcohol, Glen took a break… and stayed alcohol-free for 450 days, discovering clarity, therapy, and a renewed sense of freedom in the process.
Together, Shell and Glen unpack the changing landscape of the music industry, the importance of access for working-class talent, and the emotional toll of an identity built around work, chaos, and constant performance. They explore addiction, rage, EMDR therapy, and what happens when we stop numbing and start feeling.
Glen’s message is clear: recovery isn’t just for people who struggle from addiction. Recovery is about stepping into the life you were meant to live, fully awake, and on your own terms.
Whether you're in music, hospitality, or just trying to figure out who you are without the noise, this conversation is full of truth, grit, and hope.
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