Let's face it sometimes humans make things complex and downright messy. On this episode "these are shoes wear them on your feet" we are talking about communication in the digital world, zoos educating via virtual reality, the rediscovery of our humility and our need to recognize that we are immersed in Nature. Without Nature there is no existence for Humanity. Our guest is Blane, he grew up in New Zealand and studied and now lives in Australia, He is an architect turned digital conservationist. After many years of study, a couple degrees and some serious reflection on his life... Blane turned a corner. By wanting to help create a better world for the future, bring about awareness to our environment and get others involved with conservation at scale, he created earth.offline. His vastly growing digital world and conservation tribe is a great place to start on a journey for anyone wanting to deepen their knowledge in all things conservation.