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In this episode of the podcast, Dr. Ryan Moyer speaks with psychotherapist and author Dr. John Tsilimparis about overcoming adversity and his new book, The Magic in the Tragic: Rewriting the Script on Grief and Discovering Happiness in our Darkest Days.

They discuss how to reframe grief as a source of growth, the difference between moving on and healing, the role of art and music in building emotional resilience, how to create more effective narratives around hardship, and why people often turn away from social support during difficult times.

For more on John, visit www.johntsilimparis.com

Why Do We Do That? is a psychology podcast that deconstructs human behavior from the perspectives of social scientists, psychologists, and others that use applied psychology in their work.

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