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On this special episode—the latest in our series of conversations that bring together people who rarely talk to each other—we hear from different perspectives on autism in a no-holds-barred discussion about this pivotal moment.
Joining us are two MAHA moms raising children with autism, Science editor-in-chief Holden Thorp—who was diagnosed with autism as an adult—and Dr. Rachael Bedard, a physician and science communicator.
President Trump and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. have made finding a cause a top issue, putting autism—and the families living with it—squarely in the national spotlight. They’ve pointed to Tylenol use during pregnancy as a possible cause, sounding big alarm bells and triggering backlash.
Today, we move past the politics and the noise to ask some bigger questions: Is Kennedy disrupting the status quo—or distorting it? And is this the kind of change that autistic people and parents actually want?
Hosts:
Brinda Adhikari
Tom Johnson
Maggie Bartlett
Dr. Mark Abdelmalek
Guests:
Jennifer Phillips, MAHA mom, has a daughter living with autism, founder Make a Stand 4 Autism
Holden Thorp, editor in chief, Science; was diagnosed as being on the ASD spectrum as an adult
April Robinson, MAHA mom, has a son living with autism; works with Voice for Choice
Dr. Rachael Bedard, physician, journalist, works with caregivers managing serious illness
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Chapters
1. Special Episode: A Conversation with MAHA Moms & Science Communicators About Autism (00:00:00)
2. Intro and headlines: An Honest Conversation About Autism (00:00:29)
3. Tom and Mark Laying It Out: The New Attention on Autism (00:02:45)
4. The Conversation Begins (00:07:59)
5. Jennifer Phillips (00:08:04)
6. Holden Thorp (00:09:42)
7. April Robinson (00:10:48)
8. Dr. Rachael Bedard (00:11:56)
9. Discussing the New Attention Autism is Getting (00:13:10)
10. April (00:13:44)
11. Jennifer on the Tylenol Press Conference (00:15:59)
12. Holden on the Diagnostic Criteria (00:19:43)
13. Jennifer Responds (00:23:27)
14. Rachael on Kennedy and the Diagnostic Criteria (00:26:53)
15. Are We in a New Era of Discussing Autism? (00:34:54)
16. Holden (00:35:29)
17. April on Studies (00:42:53)
18. Maggie Responds to April About the Studies (00:46:10)
19. Discussing the Research (00:50:22)
20. Holden Responds (00:51:41)
21. Jennifer on the Heterogeneity of Autism (00:54:11)
22. Rachael On What a Different Message Could Have Looked Like (00:57:34)
23. April on Resources for Autism (01:02:55)
24. Cause vs Treatment vs Supports Conversation (01:07:11)
25. Final Thoughts on Our Conversation (01:26:55)
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