Some conversations feel like a hug you didn’t know you needed. This is one of them. SJR and Lisa Harper pull up to talk about the kind of grace that finds you in the middle of your mess, the love of God that never walks away, and what it means to grow through criticism without losing your softness. They unpack ministry wounds, performance-based faith, recovering from religious shame, and how to hold your calling without breaking your heart. This episode is a full-circle moment for the girls who’ve wrestled with not being “enough” for the Church but know they’re still called. If you’ve ever felt like you're building something while battling what’s behind you, go ahead and lean into this conversation.