What happens when two mental health professionals—one psychiatrist, one psychologist—sit down to unpack the history, tension, and surprising synergy between their fields? In this candid and deeply human episode, Dr. David Gross and Dr. Andrew Rosen share personal stories from decades in the field, reflecting on how outdated systems, insurance-driven models, and stigma have fractured collaboration between psychology and psychiatry. But the conversation doesn’t stop at frustration—it builds a hopeful case for what mental health care could look like when professionals work together instead of competing.

From zombie-like side effects of early medications to heart-pounding encounters in state hospitals, the doctors revisit the roots of the field and explore how new models—like integrated care and therapy-medication partnerships—can shift the future. Whether you’re a practitioner, a curious listener, or someone seeking help, this conversation might just challenge how you think about mental health professionals… and why bridging the gap between mind and medicine matters more than ever.

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