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Financial Abuse is not a relationship issue. Financial Abuse is a domestic violence issue. Learn about financial abuse in marriage and romantic partnerships through powerful interviews with survivors of financial abuse plus experts, authors and organizations to bring more awareness, prevention and recovery to survivors of a financially abusive partnership.
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It's Not About The Money

Catherine Morgan

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It’s not about the money is for women in business who know they want to make more money whilst holding onto more money and growing an abundance of wealth. You're tired of overgiving, undercharging and being stuck in a scarcity money mindset. You know you have it in you, you just need financial confidence and an abundant mindset. You're excited and ready to learn what it takes to make more money, invest and step into wealth. Hosted by Catherine Morgan, Author, Award-winning Financial Wellbein ...
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In this episode, I welcome back international career and leadership expert Kathy Caprino to explore the concept of finding brave - why bravery is essential for breaking through personal and professional barriers, and how vulnerability can be a pathway to authentic power. Episode Highlights: Kathy's Journey to Finding Brave From an 18-year corporate…
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Windi, survivor and advocate from California, shares her journey of abuse and recovery. She details her childhood, meeting her abusive partner after the tragic end to a previous engagement and the challenges of her marriage with a partner suffering from untreated PTSD and financial instability. Windi highlights her efforts to protect and education …
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In this episode, I explore how financial struggles often aren't money problems at all—they're courage problems. Whether you're hiding from financial conversations, struggling to charge what you're worth, or trapped in cycles of overspending, the real solution might lie in embracing vulnerability and getting "financially naked." Episode Highlights: …
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Episode Overview In this episode, following last week's announcement about my evolution as a money visionary, I celebrate surpassing half a million podcast downloads and explore why positive thinking alone often fails to transform our financial reality. Despite countless affirmations and good intentions, many intelligent and ambitious people strugg…
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In this deeply personal episode, I share reflections on my journey over the past 18 months and how my vision for my work is evolving. Looking back over nearly a decade of work in the psychology of money, I explain how this next phase represents not an abandonment of my previous mission, but an expansion to create greater impact. Key Highlights My J…
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Episode Overview In this episode, I tackle the timely topic of investing during market volatility, particularly relevant as stock markets respond to President Trump's recent tariff announcements. For many investors, these uncertain times can trigger anxiety and fear, but I explain why volatility is actually normal, cyclical, and can present excelle…
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Sophora Acheson, Executive Director and Co-Board President of Ruby's Place, discusses her journey from Grass Valley, Califorinia, to Santa Rosa and developing a passion for helping survivors of domestic violence. She shares her personal history of abuse and her career path, which led her to pioneer a program to reduce perpetrator violence called R.…
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The Manitoba Association of Women's Shelters (MAWS) is a non-profit organization in Manitoba, Canada, dedicated to supporting survivors of gender-based violence through education, training and community collaboration. Today, Amber Merucci, Project Specialist; Tsungai Muvingi, Provincial Coodinator and Maria Paz, Communication Specialist at MAWS, di…
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Episode Overview In this episode, I explore the art of quarterly financial planning as we approach the start of a new quarter in 2025. Whether you've never created a financial plan before, have ambitious money goals gathering dust, or have had to pivot due to unexpected circumstances, this episode offers practical guidance on creating a financial r…
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Episode Overview In this episode, I delve into how coaches, therapists and professionals can decode their clients' money language to uncover deeper beliefs and patterns around finances. By becoming attuned to specific words and phrases, practitioners can help clients identify unconscious money stories that may be limiting their financial wellbeing.…
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Episode Overview In this episode, I explore the often-overlooked connection between trauma responses and our financial behaviours. By examining how fight, flight, freeze and fawn manifest in our relationship with money, I uncover the deeper patterns that shape our financial decisions—often without us even realising it. Key Highlights Understanding …
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Episode Overview In this episode, I welcome Mike Jones, founder of Better Happy and author of The Happy Business Revolution, to explore how entrepreneurs can escape the "owner trap" and build more happiness into their businesses. Drawing on Mike's unique background in the military and his transformative experiences living in monasteries, we uncover…
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Sue, a court stenographer from Bayshore, New York, shares her harrowing experiences with financial and emotional abuse in her two marriages. She details her first husband's lies and instability, leading to a short-lived marriage and his eventual death. Her second husband, a successful financier with a beautiful mansion in Connecticut, was abusive, …
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Episode Overview IIn this episode, I explore the wealth gap that exists in the UK (where 45% of men hold stocks and shares ISAs compared to only 26% of women) and challenge us to reconsider what wealth truly means beyond the traditional definition of "assets minus liabilities." Key Highlights The Limited Definition of Wealth Financial services and …
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Episode Overview In this episode, I challenge the conventional wisdom about wealth and status by revealing four surprising psychological insights on why embracing a lower profile might actually lead to greater financial freedom and happiness. Key Highlights The Social Conditioning Around Wealth We've been conditioned to believe wealth looks like lu…
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Sybil Cummin, a licensed professional play therapist from Colorado, founded the Rising Beyond Power & Control podcast and resource website to address the gaps in support for survivors of abuse, particularly those with children. She emphasizes the concept of post-separation abuse, where abuse continues after leaving an abusive partnership. Sybil's c…
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Episode Overview In this episode, I explore why so many female founders experience "success ceilings" - those moments when business finally gains momentum, money flows in, goals are hit... and then something happens to pull us back down. Whether it's sudden emergencies, procrastination on new opportunities, or discounting services, these patterns a…
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This conversation explores the transformative experiences of a group of entrepreneurs who attended the Ski Person of Influence trip in Italy with me. We share insights on personal growth, the importance of community, and the deep conversations that foster learning and connection. The discussion highlights the diverse paths to success, the interplay…
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Julia Foos, a Community Education Coordinator from the North Shore suburbs of Chicago, discusses her role at Sarah's Inn, an organization dedicated to helping domestic violence survivors. Julia, who has a background in social work and gender studies, joined Sarah's Inn after discovering their podcast during COVID. She highlights Sarah's Inn's compr…
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In this episode I share valuable lessons learned from a recent ski trip with entrepreneurs. I introduce a framework for effective self-introduction and emphasize the importance of surrounding oneself with the right people, scaling through systems, and fostering deep conversations. The discussion highlights the balance between profitability and impa…
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In this episode, I discuss the transition from traditional time-for-money business models to a new paradigm of wealth creation through asset building. I emphasize the importance of creating sustainable income streams and introduce the GROW method as a framework for developing assets. The conversation also addresses common mindset blocks that preven…
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Stephanie Russell, a Community Educator for The Ark Domestic Violence & Sexual Assault Shelter in Central Texas, discusses her journey from a retired nurse to an advocate for survivors of domestic violence. She emphasizes the importance of individualized support, noting The Ark serves a diverse population including elderly and victims with pets. St…
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In this episode, Kate Daly and I discuss the pension gender gap and its implications during divorce. Kate shares her personal experience with divorce and how it led her to co-found Amicable, an organization focused on helping couples navigate separation while protecting their financial futures. The conversation delves into the emotional aspects of …
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In this episode, I explore the concept of money trauma and how early experiences shape our relationship with money. I discuss the primal nervous system responses that can make money feel dangerous, the impact of inherited family patterns, and the importance of rewiring our perceptions of money to create a healthier relationship with it. Through awa…
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Michela Giordana Castro, licensed clinical social worker and religious trauma specialist, discusses her journey from a fundamental upbringing to helping survivors of abuse and those navigating spirituality post-religious conversion. Michela emphasizes the importance of not staying silent and avoiding shame in trauma recovery. She discusses ways to …
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In this episode of the It's Not About the Money podcast, I explore the evolving field of financial coaching. I discuss the differences between financial coaching and advising, the essential skills required for effective coaching, and the importance of empathy and deep listening. I emphasise that one does not need to be perfect with money to become …
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In this episode of 'It's Not About the Money', I welcome Sara Price, founder of Actually, to discuss her personal journey with wealth, health, and redefining success. Sara shares her experiences with cancer and recovery, emphasizing the importance of acceptance, surrender, and financial management during crises. The conversation explores how wealth…
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In this episode of 'It's Not About the Money,' I discuss the psychological shifts necessary for making more money in 2025 without the hustle. I emphasize the importance of identity, the nervous system's role in financial success, and introduces desire-based pricing as a method for authentic selling. I invite you to explore your relationship with mo…
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Sherry Lutz Herrington, founder of Strong Women Thriving and Sherrington Financial Fitness, shares her journey from a financially abusive relationship to becoming a financial expert and advocate. Detailing her experiences with abuse and subsequent financial disasters, Sherry empasizes the importance of financial education and support for women reco…
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In this reflective episode, I discuss the challenges faced in 2024, emphasizing the importance of self-compassion and acceptance. I share personal experiences of navigating difficult times, the significance of creating space for connection, and introduce a ritual for releasing and receiving. The conversation encourages listeners to embrace their em…
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In this episode of the It's Not About the Money podcast, I explore how to prioritize finances when everything feels important. I introduce the concept of 'money dates' as a way to build a relationship with money, emphasizing the importance of emotional connection and creating a supportive environment. I share frameworks like the fridge, freezer, la…
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In this episode, I explore the Enabler Money Story Type, focusing on how it shapes our relationship with giving and receiving. I discuss the guilt often associated with receiving, the emotional exhaustion that can arise from over-giving, and the importance of setting boundaries. I provide insights into recognizing enabler patterns and offers practi…
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Acquania Escarne, acclaimed financial coach and entrenpreneur, discusses her journey from learning finances at an unusually early age to her 15-year career in the Foreign Service and how she cleverly funded her own extensive travel experiences. Acquania emphasizes the importance of learning financial literacy no matter your age or circumstances and…
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In this episode of 'It's Not About the Money', I explore the innovator money story type, emphasizing the connection between self-worth and financial decisions. I share personal experiences and insights on how identity impacts our relationship with money, particularly for innovators who often tie their self-esteem to financial success. The episode p…
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In this episode of the It's Not About the Money podcast, I delve into the architect money story type, exploring the connection between anxiety and financial decision-making. I discuss how over-planning and fear of financial risks can lead to analysis paralysis, impacting one's ability to make clear financial decisions. I offer strategies for managi…
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Terry, a social worker from Amherst, New York, now residing in Florida, shares her roller coaster journey of financial abuse in a relationship. She details how her partner, initially kind, later struggled with financial stability and drug abuse. Despite her efforts to support him, including lending money and providing a home, Terry faced repeated f…
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In this episode I explore the concept of money denial, particularly through the lens of the pacifist money story type. I discuss the psychological and neurological aspects of financial avoidance, highlighting how denial serves as a protective mechanism against emotional pain associated with financial decisions. The conversation delves into the gene…
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In this episode I explore the complex emotion of shame, particularly in relation to money and spending habits. I discuss how shame is a natural human emotion that can lead to impulsive spending and feelings of inadequacy. Through the Money Storytypes framework, I provide insights into understanding one's relationship with money and offer practical …
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In this conversation I discuss the energy dynamics of selling, emphasizing the importance of moving from a scarcity mindset to one of abundance and connection. I share practical exercises to help entrepreneurs, particularly women, overcome fears associated with selling and adopt a more authentic, desire-based approach. This conversation highlights …
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In this powerful episode of "Speaking Out on Financial Abuse", host Laurie G. welcomes Kate and Karen from "Broken to Brilliant", an innovative Australian charity founded by domestic violence survivors. Kate shares her personal journey from surviving abuse to creating an organization that mentors other survivors in rebuilding their lives. The conve…
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Financial abuse can be a silent yet devastating form of domestic violence, often going unrecognized even by those experiencing it. In this inaugural episode of "Speaking Out on Financial Abuse", host Laurie G. sheds light on this pervasive issue that affects individuals across all demographics. Laurie introduces the concept of financial abuse, defi…
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In this episode of 'It's Not About the Money,' I delve into the intricate relationship we have with success, particularly focusing on the fears that often accompany it. Drawing from my exploration of Gene Keys, I discuss how our perceptions of success are shaped by our values, self-worth, and the shadows we carry. I explore the themes of graciousne…
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In this conversation, I discuss nine money habits that may be keeping individuals poor and offer insights on how to transform these habits. I emphasize the importance of understanding one's relationship with money, recognizing emotional triggers, and fostering open financial conversations. The discussion also covers the significance of building a f…
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Taking control of your financial future after abuse starts with small, deliberate steps. In this episode, US Navy veteran and economist Christy Piper shares insights from her own journey through financial abuse and her expertise helping others break free from toxic relationships. As the author of "Girl, You Deserve More! How to Break His Spell Over…
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In this episode, I explore the intricate relationship between love and money, and how healing your relationship with love could be the key to holding more wealth. Chapters 00:00 The Intrinsic Connection Between Love and Money 05:40 Understanding Financial Blueprints and Money Trauma 11:01 Expanding Your Capacity to Hold Wealth 18:09 Healing Relatio…
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In this conversation, I delve into the concept of money trauma, exploring its emotional and psychological impacts on individuals. I discuss how past experiences with money shape our beliefs and behaviours, leading to patterns of overspending, under-earning, and self-sabotage. I emphasise the importance of recognizing these traumas and offer practic…
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In this episode, I discuss the critical importance of pensions in divorce settlements, particularly for women. I highlight the common oversight of pensions during divorce proceedings and explain the various options available for managing pensions, including pension sharing, offsetting, and attachment orders. I emphasise the need for women to seek f…
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In this episode of the It's Not About the Money podcast, I explore the reasons behind procrastination, particularly in relation to financial decisions. I discuss how emotions such as fear of failure, fear of success, perfectionism, and overwhelm can hinder our ability to make money-related choices. I emphasize the importance of understanding money …
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In this conversation, I share my personal journey of talking a pause on my podcast and other business areas and the profound transformation it has brought to my life. I discuss my experiences of visiting Necker Island, my ADHD diagnosis, and what an ice bath with Sir Richard Branson taught me about resilience. I also explore the concept of identity…
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In this conversation, I discuss the impact of masculine energy on our financial lives and how to bring more feminine energy into our approach to money. I explore the language and behaviour associated with money, highlighting the underlying feelings of safety, hard work, and control. I emphasize the importance of balancing masculine and feminine ene…
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