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Proofing Stage

Joan Kanner, Michelle Bond

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Proofing Stage examines the origins, progress, struggles, and setbacks of entrepreneurs through the lens of its founders, who, among other things, have run a bagel business for the past 8 years. This podcast is about our experiences and the nitty gritty of being an underrepresented small business owner. Just like we've worked to fill the gap in quality bagels, lox, and schmear, these conversations fill the gap of knowledge, mentorship, and straight talk that are missing from other business p ...
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Hi, I'm Avis Boone, the host of That's How We Role Podcast, where we talk with women making an impact as entrepreneurs, business owners, creatives, artists, actors, entertainment industry professionals, advocates, solopreneurs about their businesses and careers, their motivation and inspiration all while serving as role models and mentors for those wanting to create their own path in their career journey. We will discuss ways to connect on all levels from real-world business to the entertain ...
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Marie Silverstrim, User Experience (UX) Designer Whether you are observing actions or directly asking, your customers and clients are telling you something. Understanding not only what that is but the why behind it... well, that's what gets you to the good stuff. And, while it's always a good time to make sure your business goals are aligned with c…
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When times are shit and you need a pep talk... and strategies... and allies... It's time to return to our Season 2 Episode with: Erin Stampp, she/her, MPP - Director, Professional Development Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis In this episode of Proofing Stage, hosts Michelle Bond and Joan Kanner are joined by DEI practitioner Er…
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Dr. Eleanor Rust and Dr. Tristra Newyear Yeager Producers, Writers & Hosts of Frances Wright: America's Forgotten Radical Women have - and do - play significant roles in shaping history, yet their stories are often never recorded in the first place or simply erased. By answering the question "Frances who?" Eleanor and Tristra provide insights into …
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Susan Clayton, Founder of WhitePaws RunMitts Better now or better now? Better now? Like many of you, we're entering the new year fine-tuning our vision and calling on our support systems. This includes brilliant business minds like, Susan Clayton, Founder of WhitePaws RunMitts who is hitting her stride while elevating themes for underrepresented fo…
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Tabitha? Cute, but don't mess. Endora? Fierce. Sabrina? Work. Joanne Lakomski? Um, legend. We're here with some new, free bonus content to start off 2025. Our recording with Joanne Lakomski, The Human Resorceress, was particularly content-rich and timely as we reflect on this past year while priming us for the new one. Hey, if you're one of our Pro…
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Joanne Lakomski, Human Resorceress Coaching and Consulting At a time of year when we can feel overwhelmed, reflective, daunted and blessed (often within the same 30 minutes), we've got a salve for both your personal and professional pain points. This week Michelle and Joan connect with Joanne Lakomski, the Human Resorceress, bringing years of exper…
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Brandy Archie, OTD, OTR/L, CLIPP Founder, CEO at AskSAMIE Part session with your OT, part advice on goal setting and business management from your ET ("Entrepreneur Therapist"), Dr. Brandy Archie drops all kinds of knowledge on this week's episode. From her approach to working with those looking to age in place, to her lessons from multiple venture…
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Today’s guest is Amy Holmwood, founder of Holistic Spirits Co. Amy is a health and wellness entrepreneur and advocate of holistic health solutions. Holistic spirits combines science, nature, and artisanal distillation to create innovative spirits that elevate the palate and the planet. Inspired by personal experiences with health issues since her c…
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Some things never change, and this includes our appetite for business self-help books. This holiday week, we're sharing a special episode with Joan and Michelle, discussing leadership-development propaganda from days gone by. What do concepts of success and decision-making look like in the rear view mirror, and what, perhaps not surprisingly, still…
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Dr. Anaïs Webster Mennuti, PharmD Co-founder of Shots With That LLC Marie Wilda, Founder/CEO Lenkai.co In this week's episode Michelle and Joan sit down with producers, Anaïs and Marie, to learn more about the driving factors behind their documentary film, Harmacy, including their personal experiences and funding sought to make it happen. While Big…
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Megan Hanson, Public Relations & Communications Consultant In an age of perpetual content creation and AI, you don't tend to hear much about traditional PR anymore. Often, it can feel like it's about the likes, the engagement numbers. And, don't get us wrong, measures are important. But here's a secret that this Proofing Stage episode shouts loud a…
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For many a small business owner, it's the toughest job they've ever loved. From sloppy egg sandwiches to doing the (nearly) impossible, come along with the founders of Bottoms Up Bagels as they pull back the curtain on building their dream. From obstacles and lessons learned to wins and hard-earned perspective, there's something here for everyone j…
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Get That Cash! Business Grant Guidance Straight Cash Opportunities for Your Business, Homie. Finally, the pro-tip episode we've been promising for ages! Well, about two seasons anyway. From grant-writing to review, Michelle and Joan join forces for a content rich, use right now conversation on grants. The two focus on finding, applying and reportin…
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Prescription drug commercials tell us all the time how life can be different, better, more vibrant. Sometimes it's not that pill we take but the people, knowledge and influences we take IN that make all the difference. Here's our pitch for regular doses of Proofing Stage making you feel like a more empowered you in no time ... with maximum side eff…
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“Proofing Stage is all about this journey. We know we could have just given up and moved on, keeping our learning (and our cringe) to ourselves. Be we didn’t.” On Proofing Stage, Michelle Bond and Joan Kanner get to the heart of what it means to build something from the ground up. They’re talking to founders, makers, and strategists who aren’t afra…
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Alexis Grant, Founder & CEO of They Got Acquired “What I’m passionate about is helping founders who have put their blood, sweat, and tears into these businesses, especially female founders, to walk away with as much money as they deserve,” says Alexis Grant, founder and CEO of They Got Acquired. In this episode, Lexi joins Michelle and Joan to demy…
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Veronica Yanhs, Founder of Business Laid Bare & Creator of the Orgasmic Operations® Method What do Star Wars and Aladdin have in common? For Veronica Yanhs, founder of Business Laid Bare and creator of the Orgasmic Operations® Method, they’re the start of her journey into blending kink with business operations. She joins hosts Michelle Bond and Joa…
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RescuePoetix™ (she/her/ella/ellas), Poet, Advocate, Artist, Educator “It’s breaking up and then finding the breakthrough in that breakup,” says RescuePoetix™ as she talks with hosts Michelle Bond and Joan Kanner about her podcast, discussing how breaking up with concepts and constructs can lead to profound insights and personal growth. RescuePoetix…
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In what would become the waning days of the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes last September, Bottoms Up Bagels (BUB) trekked up to New York City to spread some bagel love, and rounded out their BUB Roadshow engaging with those on the picket line. Among them was Avis Boone, actor, model, voice actor, photographer and content creator. Avis produces the That…
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Jackie is the Event Vice President of Bar Convent Brooklyn, one of the leading international trade events for the bar and beverage industry. Jackie's plate is quite full but she manages to serve up one of the best events here in Brooklyn! Bar Convent Brooklyn is one of the leading international trade events for the bar and beverage industry. A seas…
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Sue Ellsworth (she/her), Manager of Piedmont Food Processing Center and Founder of WE Power Food In the food industry, facing challenges is like battling summer heat—you can’t escape it, but you can learn to thrive with the right supports. In this episode of Proofing Stage, hosts Michelle Bond and Joan Kanner explore the realities with Sue Ellswort…
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Guest - Sarah O'Leary (she/her), Founder and CEO of Mend Acupuncture --- Imagine entering a dimly lit room. It's vast and yet you immediately feel tucked in. Soothing sounds swirl around you with a "whoosh, whoosh." You sit down in a dreamy recliner. After you settle in, you notice others quietly resetting their nervous systems. And just as you ask…
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Erin Stampp, she/her, MPP - Director, Professional Development Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis In this episode of Proofing Stage, hosts Michelle Bond and Joan Kanner are joined by DEI practitioner Erin Stampp. Together, they unpack the challenges and necessities of implementing effective DEI strategies, even for minority busin…
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Guests - Kait Klusewitz (she/her), Muralist/Artist | Caroline Lampinen (she/her), Artist There was so much goodness in our conversation with Kait and Caro that we couldn't fit it all into the full episode. This mighty bonus episode continues with the artists discussing the very real costs of stress and short turnaround times on last-minute, jobs an…
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Guests - Kait Klusewitz (she/her), Muralist/Artist | Caroline Lampinen (she/her), Artist Bringing art to business and business to art, hosts Michelle Bond and Joan Kanner dive into a vibrant discussion on "Proofing Stage" with two extraordinary creatives. Kait Klusewitz and Caroline Lampinen join the episode to unpack the powerful intersection of c…
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Some pods offer a peek behind the curtain. But in today's bonus episode, Michelle and Joan give peeks inside their heads! Now that they're doing the asking, whose asking acts as examples to emulate? And, yes, you'll be left asking yourself "wait, who had their own talk show?!" Some delicious samples from this bonus served up in paper soufflé cups b…
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“There is so much false urgency I have fallen prey to that I’ve learned about through this business. I don’t want to see other people making those mistakes, especially women,” says Joan Kanner on past challenges in business. Alongside co-host Michelle Bond, they kick off the second season of Proofing Stage. Likening the podcast to a business self-d…
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Not just business as usual! Proofing Stage provides real talk, actionable guidance, lessons learned (don't make the mistakes we did) and the validation that YOU ARE NOT CRAZY (like when you've been gaslit) for female business owners. Season 1 laid the foundation by unpacking 8 years of running a successful food business. Now Joan and Michelle conti…
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Ever walk away from an exchange with someone “trying to help” whose brilliant suggestions leave you feeling frustrated or drained? Or, maybe you’ve been that well-intentioned person who has missed the mark? Worse yet, you may not know either way. In between seasons Joan and Michelle discuss recent experiences (good and bad!) and dissect the all-too…
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It is Women’s History Month and what a great time to share this conversation… In this episode, I am speaking with not one, but TWO fabulous entrepreneurs and Founders of Bottoms Up Bagels, Michelle Bond and Joan Kanner. They are also co-hosts of the Proofing Stage podcast. Michelle is a Returned Peace Corp Volunteer and has run 11 marathons. I gues…
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Have you ever found yourself frozen in a moment, opportunity dangling before your eyes, only to hesitate and miss out? Picture this: a room full of college freshmen, a motivational speaker, and a single $50 bill that sparked a revelation Joan has carried with her into her forties. On this bonus episode of Proofing Stage, Joan takes you back to her …
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In this episode, I am speaking with Rachel Winchester, Win for short. Win is an entrepreneur, product designer, public speaker and creative. She is the founder of The Focus Assistants, a Brooklyn-based startup, and Visual Webmaster, a company she created to pursue her dreams of creating and developing websites and collaborating with other entrepren…
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We're celebrating the end of Season 1 with big slice of creativity, talking inspiration and intention with a generous sprinkling of strategy. After all, if you've started a business or dream of starting one, you've got that creative inside you. Whether it's thinking about a different way to design your venture altogether, or giving it just the righ…
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We're approaching the end of Season 1, but not before a jam-packed episode on creativity and collaborations to help amplify your food business. This bonus clip covers important considerations for your brand's visual identity, including who can help and when to drop the big bucks: Whether working with a firm or independent designer, ask them in adva…
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The level of difficulty is slowly intensifying for the BUB crew as they embark on new formats and increasingly longer Roadshow stops from 2021-2023. From overcoming obstacles like staffing shortages and supply chain shortfalls to equipment breakdowns, team injuries and illness, the gnarly bits of taking the bagel show on the road abound. But, as Am…
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As the Roadshow rolls on, Bottoms Up Bagels (BUB) begins to hire locally for stops in various cities. In our next full episode, we'll relive some of those hits, but today's clip is decidedly about the misses. From would-be employees with a penchant for grand theft to those who've taken a swing at law enforcement (literally), we're exposing the hila…
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Earlier in the pod we introduced the BUB Roadshow, Bottoms Up Bagels (BUB)'s way of busting the water myth and testing new markets for expansion. Part bagel pop up - part traveling circus - at its core, "The Roadshow" is about bringing good bagels to more people with local communities at its center. Today, Joan, Amanda and Michelle pull back the cu…
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No Surgeon General's Warning needed for this bonus content. Catch us chatting about smoking of the savory smokin' kind. Meats. Dairy. Pellets vs. chips. Indoor vs. outdoor. This little excerpt didn't make the cut for our conversation about the BUB Roadshow in Bozeman, Montana, but it's full of flavor. Enjoy this preview of what's to come when full …
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The air was thick with election fever, but even thicker with the scent of fresh bagels. Imagine our surprise when what we thought was a media frenzy for our beloved bagel bonanza at the Marion Public Library turned into an impromptu meet-and-greet with a Republican presidential candidate! In today's bonus episode, Michelle and Joan recap this somew…
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Any small business involves risk, often calculated and sometimes underestimated. Still, the brands you love press on every day through countless obstacles and decisions, bringing a team and the desire to not skip a beat along for the ride. But, what's behind your favorite place setting up shop, or shuttering its doors? This episode covers the groun…
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It's 2019 and Bottoms Up Bagels (BUB) is feeling the pinch of increased overhead while working with a limited business model - relying on pop ups, catering and wholesale without everyday direct-to-customer sales opportunities. The wheels are set in motion though, and the dream of production meeting retail in BUB's first brick and mortar is on its w…
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Are you a food entrepreneur who's considering moving your business into a food hall? Here's Michelle's primer on which questions to ask - so you can get the answers you need. She covers: - Square footage and layout - Common areas - Build-out and outfitting - Types of lease structures It's time to equip yourself with knowledge - and Michelle's here …
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What's that they say about hindsight? Sometimes we're fortunate to see red flags in real time. But, most times it takes a while. And, even then we can still be left wondering what happened. Or, whose version of events were "right." Then, throw in the question of intentions (known and unknown) and it's easy to give up on the prospect of ever really …
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In the spirit of the new year, we're sharing our aspirations. What are yours? In a recent production meeting, Michelle, Amanda and Joan asked: "What's your hope for this podcast?" This BTS bonus episode begins to answer that question... Some highlights below: Joan: "It had to have catharsis, but also have catharsis with meaning [outside of us]. I f…
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We're winding down our year and having some fun within the entrepreneurial landscape. What can prompt one human being to get up and go, can generate a Camden Yards-style wave of eyerolls from another. In this clip, not quite mini-sode, Joan runs down a few of 2023's standout CTAs for budding business owners. Find more at proofingstage.com Follow us…
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Ah, Anthony Bourdain, you are still deeply missed. What happens when the utopia of accessing commercial equipment, making your product with a bit more ease, and being around theoretically like-minds begins to fade? Here, the everyday challenges of scaling a food business butt up against culture clashes and finding your voice. What's in any of our c…
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Gather around for story-time... this mini-sode about the power of gifting yourself permission is more evergreen than seasonal. #impostersyndrome #loxtoreflecton #criticalcontrolpoint Find more at proofingstage.com Follow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstage Join Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-bet…
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You're getting to know our founders a little more everyday. The context provider. The cut-to-the-chase-er. The outside observer. While the businesses we've begun are in different industries, the hustle is similar - living the literal dream while trying to make ends meet, and having the right tools for the job. Were we getting ready for a dog show? …
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Joan shares why the Proofing Stage pod is important to her, and to us. Find more at proofingstage.com Follow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstage Join Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes! See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.…
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Michelle and Joan are doers. They don't just have ideas, they go after them - sometimes too hard and for too long. Sometimes to great success and following. This first episode of Proofing Stage lays the groundwork for why, after a professional lifetime of going after things, creating and improving, it's time to take a look back and figure out where…
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