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A Room of One's Own When You Don't Own It

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Any small business involves risk, often calculated and sometimes underestimated. Still, the brands you love press on every day through countless obstacles and decisions, bringing a team and the desire to not skip a beat along for the ride.

But, what's behind your favorite place setting up shop, or shuttering its doors? This episode covers the ground from BUB Hub beta's build out and the team finally having a space of their own, through the end of the initial lease term - all against the backdrop of a global pandemic. We also remind you (and us) why this journey is worthwhile.

Hard-won victories, lessons learned and pro-tips abound, like:

  • In the world of commercial real estate, what's a vanilla shell?
  • Moreover, what's got Joan feeling like a cold dark shell?
  • Negotiating for graduated rent
  • We stop ourselves short from unpacking health department and building inspection processes
  • The eustress (not me-stress) of moving
  • How "coming soon" is a phrase that shouldn't be used lightly
  • Paying to build out a space you don't own
  • Amanda creates a colorful new expletive
  • Why property ownership makes sense for small businesses
  • "I"m a real estate startup, and I'm here to help... our investors!"
  • Treating people like crap when you think you're better than them
  • Green means go. Yellow means caution. Red (flags) mean nothing when you have no options.
  • Whoever dies with the most toys wins
  • When landlords gaslight you
  • "The Wire" helps us explain some things
  • Rewarding landbankers
  • Did someone say "conspiracy?"
  • Michelle's pitch for you to "like and subscribe"

CW: Adult language

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Additional music by AlisiaBeats (via Pixabay)

Artwork by Lisa Orye
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Chapters

1. Challenges of Opening New Business (00:00:00)

2. Moving in and Setting Up Shop (00:13:49)

3. Leasing vs. Buying a Property (00:16:47)

4. White Male Power and Property Challenges (00:29:22)

5. Challenges With Property Ownership and Startups (00:35:42)

47 episodes

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Content provided by Joan Kanner, Michelle Bond, Joan Kanner, and Michelle Bond. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Joan Kanner, Michelle Bond, Joan Kanner, and Michelle Bond or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://staging.podcastplayer.com/legal.

Any small business involves risk, often calculated and sometimes underestimated. Still, the brands you love press on every day through countless obstacles and decisions, bringing a team and the desire to not skip a beat along for the ride.

But, what's behind your favorite place setting up shop, or shuttering its doors? This episode covers the ground from BUB Hub beta's build out and the team finally having a space of their own, through the end of the initial lease term - all against the backdrop of a global pandemic. We also remind you (and us) why this journey is worthwhile.

Hard-won victories, lessons learned and pro-tips abound, like:

  • In the world of commercial real estate, what's a vanilla shell?
  • Moreover, what's got Joan feeling like a cold dark shell?
  • Negotiating for graduated rent
  • We stop ourselves short from unpacking health department and building inspection processes
  • The eustress (not me-stress) of moving
  • How "coming soon" is a phrase that shouldn't be used lightly
  • Paying to build out a space you don't own
  • Amanda creates a colorful new expletive
  • Why property ownership makes sense for small businesses
  • "I"m a real estate startup, and I'm here to help... our investors!"
  • Treating people like crap when you think you're better than them
  • Green means go. Yellow means caution. Red (flags) mean nothing when you have no options.
  • Whoever dies with the most toys wins
  • When landlords gaslight you
  • "The Wire" helps us explain some things
  • Rewarding landbankers
  • Did someone say "conspiracy?"
  • Michelle's pitch for you to "like and subscribe"

CW: Adult language

Theme music by Thorn Haze

Additional music by AlisiaBeats (via Pixabay)

Artwork by Lisa Orye
Find more at proofingstage.com
Follow us on Instagram and Threads @proofingstage
Join Proofing Stage+ to support us supporting you, AND access new bonus content in-between episodes!

See Buzzsprout's Privacy Policy for listener privacy and read our disclaimer here.

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Challenges of Opening New Business (00:00:00)

2. Moving in and Setting Up Shop (00:13:49)

3. Leasing vs. Buying a Property (00:16:47)

4. White Male Power and Property Challenges (00:29:22)

5. Challenges With Property Ownership and Startups (00:35:42)

47 episodes

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