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Open Market

Joe Zappa & Eric Franchi

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Open Market is a podcast about building companies in the advertising space. This is not another news podcast. Rather, hosts Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa will dive deep into the stories of successful companies and growth strategies to help listeners understand how to replicate that success. For example, how did Eric build Undertone to a $180M exit? How would you reverse-engineer a $10M adtech exit? Why do you need a chief audience officer? Entrepreneurs, execs, and GTM professionals in advertis ...
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The Marketecture Podcast is hosted by industry experts Ari Paparo and Eric Franchi. Every Friday they publish an interview with an important thinker in the advertising and marketing industries, and cover that week's most important news. Every Monday there's an in-depth vendor interview where you learn about interesting companies. https://www.marketecture.tv
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Learn all about the latest innovations in Digital Out-of-Home (DOOH) with OOH Insider, your top source for insights on programmatic DOOH advertising, AI innovations, Supply Path Optimization (SPO), and cutting-edge measurement tactics. Designed for DOOH publishers and ad tech executives, each episode explores how curation and advanced measurement strategies meet DOOH best practices. Stay ahead of the curve with actionable strategies and exclusive interviews tailored to DOOH executives, enabl ...
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Ari Paparo chats with Milly Botes, VP of Product Management at Acast, about how the company’s podcast monetization platform and ad network. Milly breaks down the evolution of dynamic ad insertion, what makes host-read ads so effective, and how Acast is using AI to help with podcast discovery for advertisers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit m…
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Ari Paparo sits down with Oleg Korenfeld, CTO of CMI Media Group, to discuss their experience integrating AI into agency media planning. They explore the challenges of working with multiple data sets, the limitations of generative AI in answering precise data queries, and how they adjusted their approach to automation. Oleg also shares insights on …
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Ari Paparo talks with Sean Muller, CEO of iSpot, about the challenges and opportunities in measuring video across platforms such as linear TV, streaming, and social media. They explore how AI is helping to accelerate insights and enhance creative planning, and how marketers are adapting to changes in video consumption and advertising strategies. Th…
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First, Eric shares a prediction from Anthropic's CEO on AI-fueled labor disruption and examines how that will affect jobs in advertising, media, and adtech. Then, Joe shares his critique of romanticizing the open web and clarifies three things adtech companies should be thinking about when considering the future of the open web: what consumers want…
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Ari Paparo sits down with Tony Marlow, CMO of LG Ad Solutions, at Cannes to unpack trends in connected TV. They cover ad innovation on smart TVs, the role of OEMs in media strategy, and how AI is starting to shape both targeting and creative. A grounded conversation on where CTV is headed—and what challenges remain. Learn more about your ad choices…
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Ari Paparo talks with Philip Inghelbrecht, CEO and co-founder of Tatari, about how TV advertising is changing. They cover outcome-based measurement, the role of DSPs in connected TV, and how Tatari is using AI in creative workflows and media planning. The conversation also touches on how brands of different sizes approach TV and what trends are sha…
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Mark Grether, GM of PayPal Ads, joins Ari Paparo to break down how PayPal is approaching ads using data from PayPal, Venmo, and Honey. They talk about off-site targeting, commerce media, and why PayPal’s position in the market might be more powerful than people realize. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…
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Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa discuss whether micropayments will overtake ads as the default monetization model for the open internet as well as OpenAI's big hardware bet and its implications for advertising. Plus, Joe provides three marketing tips on staying the course, when to respond to criticism, and how the advertising echo chamber works. Finally…
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Ari Paparo speaks with Louqman Parampath, VP of Product for Ads and Commerce at Roblox, to break down how the company is building out its ad business. They discuss Roblox's massive user base, its immersive environment, and how creators and brands are monetizing the platform. Topics include ad formats like rewarded video, the role of programmatic, b…
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Todd Braverman, CRO of Ampersand, joins to explain how the company is navigating the shift from linear TV to streaming and data-driven advertising. Plus, Ari and Eric break down Meta’s AI ad plans, Amazon’s DSP pricing push, WPP and MIQ’s new AI platforms, and the latest in the Google antitrust case. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphon…
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Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa break down what happened at DMS by LUMA, highlighting four trends: the Outcomes Era, AI transformation, the war for the open internet, and the explosion of creators. They dive deep into how open internet adtech companies can position themselves against the walled gardens by leaning into transparency and whether creators r…
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Ari Paparo speaks with Matthew Doherty, CEO of EXTE North America, about the company’s recent rebranding and its approach to entering the U.S. market. They cover EXTE’s contextual targeting technology, how its optimization functions across various media environments, and the challenges of fitting into existing ad tech workflows. The discussion also…
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Ari Paparo and Eric Franchi are joined by David Berkowitz, a longtime marketer and founder of Serial Marketers and the AI Marketers Guild. They talk about the evolving role of community in marketing, how AI is reshaping creative work, and the uncertain future of entry-level marketing jobs. Plus, reflections on Mountain’s IPO, WPP’s AI push, and wha…
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Joe Zappa and Eric Franchi workshop to SWYM story in real-time, unearthing with Ravi Patel how to describe SWYM's differentiated approach to its eponymous mission: helping advertisers to stop wasting their money. They discuss the many curation / quality plays out there and how SWYM differs as well as the evolution from ad buying 1.0 to 2.0 to (now)…
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Ari Paparo speaks with Aaron McKee, CTO of Blis, recently acquired by T-Mobile. They discuss Blis’s unique geo-based approach to omnichannel media planning and measurement, how it delivers performance across hard-to-reach environments like iOS and CTV, and why traditional cookie-dependent strategies may fall short. Aaron also explains how Blis hand…
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Eric and Ari are joined by Jenny Wall, CMO of VideoAmp, to discuss the week's biggest stories—from DoubleVerify’s defamation lawsuit to Walmart’s retail media momentum. Jenny shares her perspective on the state of measurement, advanced audiences, and why the industry still has work to do when it comes to connecting data, outcomes, and real consumer…
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Kevel CEO James Avery joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa on the pod to discuss how Kevel has evolved over the years, the current retail media landscape, and what the space will look like in five years. Also, Eric and Joe do a deep dive on Kevel's story, and the three workshop the company's messaging in real-time.…
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GroupM COO JiYoung Kim talks about the agency’s evolving role in data collaboration, why signal-based models may outperform ID-based ones, and how privacy and performance can coexist. She also reflects on AI’s growing influence and the industry's need to rethink long-held assumptions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…
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Eric Franchi and Ari Paparo are joined by Olivia Kory, Chief Strategy Officer at Haus, Olivia explains her research on YouTube and AppLovin as well as how the methodology can work across media. The group discusses the big news that Xandr Invest is shutting and recaps the DMS conference. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…
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Joe rants at Eric about how to turn a company's value proposition into a compelling story that brings more customers and those who influence them into a company's circle. Also, Joe and Eric cover how to optimize for a team of smart folks who make complicated things simple, the value of playing long-term games with long-term people, and the emerging…
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Bluefish CEO Alex Sherman talks with Erin Lanuti, Chief Innovation Officer at Omnicom PR Group, about how AI is reshaping the way consumers discover brands. They explore the risks of misinformation in AI-generated responses, the shift from traditional SEO to conversational AI, and what brands need to do to stay visible and accurate in AI-driven sea…
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Taboola CEO Adam Singolda joins Ari Paparo to explore the company’s role in the open web, from evolving publisher monetization models to the impact of AI on content personalization. They discuss the balance between relevance and quality, the rise of commerce content, and how platforms like Taboola are navigating scale and trust in a changing digita…
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Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa discuss POSSIBLE joining the ranks of adtech’s tentpole events, how many brands were there, the two ways to approach events (spontaneous connections or maniacal planning), brand-startup connections, and Joe Zawadzki’s recognizable floppy hair. Plus, Joe analyzes The Trade Desk CEO Jeff Green’s LinkedIn presence and explai…
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Dan Goikhman (CEO) and Krish Arvapally (CTO) of Dappier join the show to discuss how their company helps media brands deploy AI agents across websites and messaging platforms. They talk about real-world use cases, monetization strategies, and the shift from traditional web pages to AI-powered interactions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit me…
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Eric and Ari catch up with Teads CEO David Kostman to discuss the company’s merger with Outbrain, navigating between brand and performance goals, and how the open internet fits into today’s media landscape. They also break down what stood out at Possible, the latest in Google’s antitrust case, Apple’s courtroom loss to Epic, and growing questions a…
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Dr. Mark Grether joins the pod to talk about the four components of a massive commerce media business, how to maximize the opportunity for advertisers, why he joined PayPal to build their commerce media network after building Uber's ad business to $1B in revenue, and how AI is changing commerce media for advertisers, media owners, and consumers.…
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Ari Paparo speaks with Andy Batkin, CEO of Duration Media, about the launch of Curation Media, a new approach to programmatic advertising. They explore the shift away from middlemen, how real-time viewability tech is creating unique, high-quality ad impressions, and what “scarcity at scale” really means for both publishers and buyers. It’s a though…
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Michael Walrath, CEO of Yext, discusses the evolution of digital presence and the growing importance of structured data in an AI-driven landscape. He reflects on local-first marketing and the challenges of visibility at scale. Eric and Ari also examine Google's delayed cookie deprecation, its impact on ad tech, and broader regulatory pressures, whi…
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OpenAds CTO (and former Moat engineer) Michael Bishop and Zefr CEO Rich Raddon join Eric and Joe to discuss the evidence-based case (or lack thereof) for brand safety, why we should shift our mindset from safety to suitability and contextual targeting, the link between suitability and performance, and how AI is changing the space. Plus, Michael dro…
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TripleLift CEO Dave Helmreich joins Ari Paparo to discuss his first 60 days at the helm and how the company is evolving beyond its native roots. They explore TripleLift’s push into creative as a differentiator for programmatic, its role in powering retail media through adaptive commerce solutions, and how it’s helping publishers and advertisers inn…
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DoubleVerify CEO Mark Zagorski joins to discuss the evolving role of measurement, the use of AI, and how DV is addressing scrutiny, while Arielle Garcia and Alan Chapell break down the recent antitrust decision against Google’s ad tech stack and explore what it could mean for the future of competition and accountability in digital advertising. Lear…
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Friend of the pod and Crosshatch CEO Soren Larson joins Eric and Joe to discuss how AI is transforming venture scaling and bootstrapped business building, the hot sectors of adtech, and how LLMs will change the customer experience. Plus, Soren is now a car guy, and Joe presses Eric on the dark secrets of VC secret society.…
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In this episode, Ari Paparo interviews Eric Tilbury, Head of Operations at Inouvo, to explore how their platform moves beyond traditional keyword targeting using a proprietary “concept graph.” Tilbury explains how Inouvo identifies the underlying meaning and sentiment of content at the sentence level, enabling more precise ad targeting—even without…
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In this episode of Marketecture, Ari Paparo sits down with Gary Mittman, CEO of KERV.ai, to discuss how AI-driven video analysis is transforming contextual relevance and shopability. Mittman explains how KERV’s technology identifies key moments in video content to enable dynamic, targeted ad placements, creating new opportunities for publishers and…
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Chris Kane, and Mike O'Sullivan have a spirited debate on the Marketecture Live stage. Eric and Ari break down the latest on ad verification, Applovin’s response to short-seller attacks, the ongoing DSP fee wars, and major moves by X and XAi. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…
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Marketecture’s Jeremy Bloom and co-host Josh Palau go deep on what matters to brands. Each week the Brand Forum brings in leading brand marketers to talk advertising, media, and marketing through an insider's lens. In our inaugural episode, Josh and Jeremy sit down with Alex Birchmeier of Conagra Brands. Alex talks through testing new channels, pus…
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Eric dons his professorial glasses and trots out his most sumptuous-sounding microphone to hold office hours as he and Joe discuss the performance TV thesis' equivalent for the open web, how Joe can work with early-stage startup founders, and how you know you have product-market fit (hint: it's like porn).…
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Ari, Eric, and Brian Wieser dive into the revised 2025 ad forecast, what’s driving uncertainty, and the potential impact of pharma ad bans. Plus, AI advancements reshaping media buying, IAB’s latest technology, and YouTube allowing host-read ads. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…
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Matt Newcomb, head of Azerion in the US, UK, and APAC, joins Eric Franchi and Joe Zappa to dive deep into mergers and acquisitions. They discuss how the CEO can maximize a company's chances of a favorable exit, integration best practices, what will drive adtech M&A over the next couple of years, and war stories. Joe promises to visit Eric in his nu…
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At the Marketecture Live event, Bill Wise (CEO of Mediaocean) and Grant Parker (President of Innovid) discussed the merger of Flashtalking and Innovid, emphasizing scale, independence, and AI-driven innovation in ad tech. They highlighted balancing control and transparency for advertisers while competing with Google’s ecosystem. The conversation co…
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Brian O'Kelley joins Ari on stage at Marketecture Live where they go in depth on the latest product announcements from Scope3. Also, Ari and Eric discuss highlights from Marketecture Live, including Innovid’s brand launch, Netflix’s Ad Suite, updates in ad tech, and recent media M&A activity. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adc…
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Eric and Joe discuss the three things you need to do to maximize the impact of a product launch or press announcement by analyzing the success of two launches last week: Scope3's AI products and Aperiam 2.0. Plus, Eric can't sit with Joe at lunch, and Eric is hoarding modernist wooden elephants.By Joe Zappa & Eric Franchi
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Sovrn's Signal product is an on-page measurement and data enrichment tool designed to help publishers increase the value of their ad inventory. In the interview, Peter Cunha, Managing Director of Signal at Sovrn, explains that the product enhances bid requests by incorporating attention metrics, dynamic floor pricing, and identity signals to improv…
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The interview with Alex Persky-Stern, CEO of Waymark, explores the company's AI-powered video production platform, which simplifies ad creation for media companies and advertisers. Waymark automates video generation by pulling assets from business websites, leveraging AI to create motion graphics, voiceovers, and scripting, while integrating with S…
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