In this conversation, Henrietta Levin, a senior fellow at CSIS, discusses the evolving dynamics of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) and its implications for global governance, US-China relations, and regional partnerships. She highlights China's ambitions to reshape the international order, the complexities of India-China relations, and the significance of recent developments within the SCO. The discussion also touches on the risks associated with China's growing confidence, the appeal of its development model, and the potential for alternative financial systems. Levin emphasizes the importance of understanding these dynamics for American businesses and policymakers.

00:00 Introduction to Henrietta Levin and Her Background

07:58 European Perspectives on China

11:04 Understanding the Shanghai Cooperation Organization

14:03 China's Long-Term Goals with the SCO

16:56 China's Vision for Global Governance

20:15 The Significance of the Recent SCO Summit

23:12 China-India Relations and Their Implications

25:57 The Future of the SCO and Regional Dynamics

30:23 China's Growing Influence in Asia

36:10 Contrasting Development Models: China vs. the West

41:03 The SEO and Alternative Financial Systems

46:58 Turkey's Role in the SEO and Its Complex Relations

54:19 Navigating US-China Relations: Strategies and Outcomes