In this episode of the Built to Lead podcast, the host interviews Kelly Stickle, a pastor, author, business owner, and leader of multiple non-profit organizations. Kelly shares insights from his 28 years of church leadership, emphasizing the unique challenges it presents compared to business leadership. He discusses the importance of personal development through reading and mentorship, and introduces the concept of "ecclesia" from his new book "Let's Take Our Job Back." Kelly also highlights the need for leaders to take personal responsibility, avoid blame, and foster a balanced life that includes personal growth, serving others, and maintaining a relationship with God.