Today Shelise takes the hot seat to be interviewed by husband and co-producer Jonathan Rosales. A brief discussion about Mormonism and the various shapes it can take in people’s lives gives more context to why Shelise feels it is a cult/high control group. They discuss the light hearted aspects of leaving the cult bubble such as being out of the loop with pop culture. Then, for the first time, Shelise goes into depth about the CSA from her past and how it not only affects her daily life, but her life as a host who platforms other trauma survivors. Other hardships with running the channel while going through intense personal challenges are spoken of in detail which leads them to extreme gratitude for their audience and community who has gathered to support their guests and the cause.

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Chapter Marks

00:00:00 Intro

00:05:08 Why Shelise feels she's a Cult Survivor, having left Mormonism

00:11:22 Does Shelise feel more "connected" to society now that she's more caught up on pop culture?

00:18:36 What it feels like for Shelise to be Agnostic

00:22:21 Did Shelise ever think she would interview Cult Survivors for a living?

00:28:27 How Shelise handles the trauma offload from hosting interviews each week?

00:30:59 Shelise discusses the ab*se she experienced from her father

00:34:18 What's it been like for Jonathan having to be a container for Shelise

00:34:40 Moments Shelise broke down after conducting interviews

00:39:52 Does Shelise have a relationship with her father now?

00:51:30 Confronting the ab*se from Shelise's father, now that Shelise & Jonathan have a daughter

00:54:55 Shelise & Jonathan discuss their m*scarriage

01:02:25 Being pregnant while interviewing Cult Survivors

01:04:13 Jonathan on producing Cults to Consciousness

01:10:28 Did Jonathan feel they would be successful in the beginning?

01:13:10 The time Shelise had psychic readings done

01:17:35 Jonathan & Shelise on filming their own documentary

01:23:23 C2C Officially launches Channel Memberships!

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