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What happens when you're a Five and a mom?
This week’s episode is a special podcast takeover by Enneagram experts Sam E. Greenberg, PhD and Melissa Kircher—both Fives and both moms. They swap stories, laugh about their quirks, and get painfully honest about the challenges and strengths of navigating motherhood as a Five. Whether you’re a Five parent yourself or trying to understand one, this conversation pulls back the curtain on what it’s really like to raise kids as a deeply introspective, energy-conscious, intellectually driven Five.
IN THIS EPISODE:
🔹 Default Parent Syndrome – Why being a Five mom often means being the default parent—and how that impacts your energy, identity, and sanity.
🔹 Sensory Overload & Rage – The lesser-known side of Fives: what happens when you can’t escape and everything’s too much.
🔹 Guilt, Shame, and Nontraditional Roles – From not cooking to setting hard boundaries, the tension between how we parent and how we think we “should.”
🔹 What Fives Bring to the Table – The gifts of deep listening, strong memories, curiosity, and the refusal to parent based on trends.
🔹 Partner Dynamics – Navigating life with assertive kids and extroverted spouses, and learning to advocate for your needs.
🔹 Community & Complexity – Why finding parenting community can be hard for Fives—and why it’s still worth it.
LINKS & RESOURCES:
🌀 Sam’s work: https://enneagramsexpert.com/
🌱 Melissa’s coaching: https://enneagrampaths.com/
📩 Join the weekly newsletter: https://enneagramfive.com/newsletter
💬 Join the community: https://enneagramfive.com/community
🗒 Full transcript and show notes: https://enneagramfive.com/49
JOIN THE CONVERSATION:
📢 Are you a Five mom, or parenting with one? What parts of this conversation resonated with you? Come share your thoughts in the community!
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🔹 Practical strategies to stop overthinking and start engaging.
🔹 Growth, connection, and energy management—without the fluff.
👉 Sign up free at enneagramfive.com/newsletter.
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Chapters
1. Five Moms (original recording) (00:00:00)
2. Introducing the Hosts (00:01:58)
3. Motherhood as an Enneagram Five (00:02:50)
4. Challenges and Unique Qualities of Type Five Mothers (00:03:59)
5. Balancing Parenthood and Personal Needs (00:09:15)
6. Public Meltdowns and Parenting Strategies (00:35:49)
7. Harm Reduction in Parenting (00:44:56)
8. Navigating Public Judgement (00:45:34)
9. Community and Parenting Styles (00:47:21)
10. Balancing Family Dynamics (00:52:19)
11. Traveling with Different Energy Levels (00:59:47)
12. Cherishing Moments with Kids (01:03:55)
13. Concluding Thoughts and Reflections (01:10:47)
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