John Todd speaks with Joanna about: rethinking everything with the coronavirus; inspiring a whole new generation to change the course of the planet; a profound sense of hope about our future; scale and complexity along a continuum of healing; ecology is evolution story in the present; eco-machines, the birth of a regenerative ecological technology; don’t know mind and following a few simple rules; collaborating with the intelligence of ecosystems in the eco-machines; the New Alchemy Institute, looking at big picture problems; carbon farmers and the potential to regreen the Earth; the Weather Makers and the regreening of the Sinai desert.

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