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Even after healing, many of us still feel the pull to hide — to stay small, quiet, or polished. In this episode, Dr Nat Green explores the fear behind visibility and how Tall Poppy Syndrome keeps so many purpose-driven professionals from standing in their true power.
Full Show Notes:
In this heartfelt solo episode of Growing Tall Poppies: Thrive After Trauma, Dr Nat Green opens up about the moment she realised she was still hiding — sitting at her desk, coffee in hand, ready to share something real… and suddenly feeling her chest tighten.
That tiny hesitation revealed something big: even after deep healing, visibility can still feel unsafe. Why? Because our nervous system remembers what our culture reinforces — and Tall Poppy Syndrome whispers that it’s safer to blend in than to shine.
In this powerful conversation, Nat explores how trauma, nervous-system conditioning, and societal messages combine to keep even the most self-aware leaders playing small. She shares what happens when we lead from the mask, why “performing strength” isn’t true resilience, and how authentic visibility and Integrated Leadership becomes the next step in post-traumatic growth.
You’ll learn:
🌿 The moment Nat recognised she was still protecting herself from being fully seen
💜 How trauma and Tall Poppy Syndrome intertwine to silence authenticity
🔥 The difference between being trauma-informed and trauma-integrated
✨ Three practical tools to feel safe being seen — without oversharing or burnout
🌺 Why your presence, not your perfection, is what transforms others
Whether you’re a coach, therapist, practitioner, or purpose-driven leader, this episode is your reminder that courage isn’t about being fearless — it’s about showing up authentically, even when your body still wants to hide.
🎧 Tune in and rediscover the strength in being seen.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction: Why visibility still feels scary
03:45 – The “coffee at my desk” moment of truth
08:20 – Trauma, nervous systems & Tall Poppy Syndrome
13:00 – The cost of the mask
17:10 – What it means to lead without the mask
21:00 – Practical tools for safe visibility
24:00 – Closing reflections: The ripple effect of authentic leadership
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Intro and Outro music: Inspired Ambient by Playsound.
Disclaimer: This podcast is intended for educational purposes only. It is not intended to be deemed or treated as psychological treatment or to replace the need for psychological treatment.
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