In this episode, John Kitchens and Al Stasek are joined by powerhouse leader Kendall Bonner for a real, unfiltered conversation about what drives agent attraction, what keeps agents stuck in place, and how to lead through the noise with clarity, community, and purpose.

They explore the deep psychology behind why agents move (and why many don’t), the emotional weight of community and leadership, and the critical role AI is already playing in the evolution of agent growth, operational leadership, and personal productivity.

If you’ve ever wrestled with why people stay in toxic environments, what drives true retention, or how to use AI as your thought partner, this is the conversation you’ve been waiting for.

The Psychology of Agent Movement

• Why most agents don’t leave their broker—even when they know they should

• Understanding “inaccurate certainty” and how it keeps people stuck

• The role of fear, belonging, and unmet expectations in decision-making

Leadership, Trust & Clarity in Retention

• How leadership confirms a decision to move (but rarely initiates it)

• The difference between pain-driven vs. solution-driven movement

• Why unmet expectations cause most breakups—in life and business

The Power of Community in Brokerage Decisions

• Why the right environment unlocks personal growth and collaboration

• What agents are really looking for when they say “support”

• Why community must be intentional—not just cultural

Using AI as a Thought Partner, Not a Shortcut

• How Kendall uses “Grace,” her custom GPT, to drive leadership growth

• Why AI works best when it asks one question at a time

• Leveraging AI to analyze meetings, contracts, operations, and marketing

• How to use AI for clarity, personal growth, and better decision-making

The Future of Real Estate Growth

• How EXP is embracing AI with tools like Fixer and Huzi

• Using tech to unlock productivity, not replace people

• The AI-driven Clarity Report and how to use it to collapse time

Resources Mentioned

• The Simple Psychology of Real Estate Recruiting (report referenced by Al)

• AI Powered Real Estate Playbooks (via Huzi)

• Working Genius by Patrick Lencioni

• The AI-First Company by Ash Fontana

• The Advantage by Patrick Lencioni

• Buy Back Your Time by Dan Martell

• Fixer.ai and Huzi.ai tools for agents and leaders

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“AI has the power to make us superhuman… it has supercharged my productivity.” — Kendall Bonner

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