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Listen to the absolutely fascinating interview with Howie Rutledge Tran, who served as a Personal Assistant to several members of the Governing Body at Brooklyn Bethel for 11 years.

As well as personal insights about the behaviour and perculiarities of members of the Governing Body and the Bethel family, Howie relates how 'new light' was created.

Howie also relates his own heartbreaking personal journey, and how he fought for over a decade to deny who he was, before finding freedom, at a great cost.

If you don't listen to any other JW Podcast, listen to this one.

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