This week on Redefining Outbound, Nat Ferrante talks with Ilia Papas, CEO and co-founder of Band, about building and scaling sales as a founder, especially when coming from an engineering background. Ilia shares how he built a B2B outbound motion from scratch, the lessons he carried over from scaling Blue Apron, and the creative strategies he’s using to drive growth at Band. From overcoming the fear of cold outreach to leveraging AI and data-driven sales tactics, this conversation is packed with insights for founders, sales professionals and anyone defining their approach to outbound.