We're so excited to share this interview with Camille Herron with you! Camille was open and honest exploring her history, neurodiversity, and advocacy in ultra running. We hope you enjoy!

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Start with the headlines—world records, world titles, six-day brilliance—and you might miss the real story: how Camille Herron rebuilt elite performance by honoring her body, her brain, and her boundaries. We sit down with Camille for a candid conversation that moves from Oklahoma wheat fields to global podiums, and into the often-invisible realities of neurodiversity in endurance sport.
Camille unpacks the science behind her durability, from high-frequency doubles that protect bone health to the squat rack that finally fixed a stubborn hamstring chain. She shares how targeted bloodwork revealed high iron during perimenopause—fatigue that felt like anemia but wasn’t—and the protocol changes that brought her energy back. Those hard-won lessons translate into clear, actionable insights for runners navigating injury cycles, hormonal shifts, and the pressure to do “more” when smart adaptation does better.
We also go deep on advocacy. After an adult diagnosis of autism and ADHD, Camille asked for a simple accommodation at a 24-hour world championship: a quieter, non-enclosed aid space. The system wasn’t ready. She chose not to race without assurances and, in doing so, modeled what many athletes need to see—boundaries as performance tools, not a lack of toughness. We talk about practical steps race directors can take, from disability categories and transparent aid-station info to designated sensory-friendly areas that help neurodivergent runners compete at their best.
Along the way, Camille reflects on the professionalization of ultrarunning, the reality of online bullying, and how to protect integrity when attention turns messy. The throughline is powerful: excellence grows when we make room for difference. If you care about inclusive races, smart training, and sustaining a career you can be proud of, this one will stay with you.
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