Two besties, a pot of strong herbal decoction, and a year that tested their roots, this is a conversation about finding magic in the mess.

In this deeply personal and heart-centered conversation, Elliott welcomes back one of her best friends and fellow “witchy sister of the West,” Katie Ramos, for an honest exploration of herbal magic, spirit dosing, resilience through hardship, and the power of rooting into authenticity.

From childhood broomstick flights to modern-day herbal rituals, the two reflect on how their relationship with plants, ritual, and each other has supported them through burnout, health challenges, and big life transitions. Katie shares her journey navigating endometriosis, connecting with Mugwort, and Holy Basil on a spiritual level, and reclaiming her body’s wisdom after years of not being heard in medical spaces. Elliott opens up about her own year of reckoning with cystic acne, surrender, and self-acceptance.

Together, they weave personal stories with practical herbal insights—like working with Wood Betony to unlock expression, or using spirit doses to build intimate, intuitive relationships with plants. This isn’t a how-to episode. It’s an invitation to slow down, root in, and remember that healing is multifaceted, magical, and entirely your own.

In this episode, they discuss:

• The attraction to the magical from a young age, from broomsticks to moon rituals
• What “spirit dosing” herbs looks like in practice
• Wood Betony as a bridge between the gut, solar plexus, and voice
• Navigating health journeys with endometriosis & acne
• Finding power through surrender and daily energy alignment
• How plants can wait for us and meet us when we’re ready
• Building trust in the body’s innate ability to heal

Tune in if you’re craving real talk about healing, magic, and finding groundedness in hard seasons. Whether you’re deep into herbal work or just starting to explore, this conversation will make you feel like you’re sitting at the table with two dear friends and a pot of strong decoction.

Links from the episode:

• Katie's first appearance on The Dancing Willow Podcast, where we discussed all things lavender and her story.
• Call Dancing Willow Herbs during business hours to place an order for our single herb extract tinctures of Holy Basil/Tulsi, Mugwort & Wood Betony. 970-247-1654, 10-6 MST Mon-Sat.
• Mesa Verde Lavender website
• Mesa Verde Lavender instagram

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