REPLAY: How Emotions Are Made with Dr Lisa Feldman Barrett

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Back in 2020, we released a two-part conversation (S1 Ep15 and 16) with neuroscientist Dr Lisa Feldman Barrett. We’re long-time admirers of Lisa’s work and were thrilled that she agreed to join co-hosts Jean Gomes and Scott Allender to discuss her work on The Evolving Leader podcast. It’s also clear that Lisa Feldman Barrett’s work is a big hit with our listeners as four years after release these two episodes continue to sit at the top of our listener chart, so here we’ve decided to pull them together into a special extended episode.

Lisa Feldman Barrett is profoundly changing our understanding of the brain and in particular, our emotions. Since the ancient philosophers, and into our last century of scientific endeavour, emotions have been seen as hard-wired responses to external stimuli, located in specific regions of the brain. Lisa’s work has over-turned this age-old model which shapes everything from our current beliefs about emotional intelligence to facial recognition software widely being deployed around the world.

Beyond this extended conversation, you’ll find more of Lisa Feldman Barrett’s work in her two books, Seven and a Half Lessons About the Brain (2020) and How Emotions are Made (2017), as well as hundreds of peer reviewed scientific papers appearing in Science, Nature Neuroscience and other top journals in psychology and cognitive neuroscience.
Other reading from Jean Gomes and Scott Allender:
Leading In A Non-Linear World (J Gomes, 2023)
The Enneagram of Emotional Intelligence (S Allender, 2023)
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Chapters

1. Introduction (00:00:00)

2. Can you give us a tour of your career to date? (00:01:56)

3. You’ve told us that there is not a consistent expression of emotion. Can you say a bit more about that? (00:11:27)

4. Can you give us the building blocks to the constructed theory of emotion? (00:19:11)

5. Why do we feel this rather than it being just cognitive information? (00:29:26)

6. Can you talk a little bit about emotional granularity in this context, because that forms a very important part of your thinking? (00:38:46)

7. What are the implications of having more kind of emotional granularity or less, do you think? (00:41:40)

8. In our last discussion I learnt that there's no universal expression of emotion, but now I can’t look at emojis in the same way. (00:44:18)

9. What's the difference between a healthy and an unhealthy emotion and how does how does your theory look at that? (00:45:10)

10. How do we think about the kind of triggered fight or flight response which produces this very consistent physical and emotional reaction in us as not being hardwired? (00:48:36)

11. Some people are not aware of the impact that their behavior might have on others or on their team or the culture and climates that they're creating. (00:59:54)

12. What are some of the implications that you would draw on your discoveries for the future of leadership? (01:06:38)

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