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What if the future of nonprofit success isn’t about doing more alone, but about doing better together?

Britt sits down with Michelle F. Vryn, CFRE, to explore how nonprofits can move beyond traditional collaboration and toward something deeper: interdependence.
Listen now as we unpack Michelle’s powerful “network of mutuality” framework, originally shared in her standout LinkedIn think-piece, and discuss why emotional health, healing, and community are key to long-term nonprofit sustainability.

We interrogate what it means to shift away from old ideas of growth and move toward more relational funding models and strategic partnerships. It’s an honest, if challenging, look at where nonprofit leadership is headed and why these conversations matter right now.

If you’re a nonprofit professional, leader, or strategist ready to think differently about impact, scale, and the role of mutual support in today’s complex world, this episode is for you.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Interdependence in Nonprofits

02:59 Understanding the Network of Mutuality

05:53 Challenges of Collaboration in Nonprofits

08:46 Practical Steps for Nonprofit Collaboration

12:09 The Importance of Emotional Processing

14:58 Reframing Nonprofit Work for Sustainability

17:52 Conclusion and Call to Action

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