Prolific readers Alice Slater and Bethany Rutter take a literary theme, from ghost stories to crime to fat women, and chat about it for the next 40 minutes. Follow us on Twitter @WhatPagePod
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I read a memoir written by a friend last year, and as I was reading it I realised I wish all my friends wrote memoirs, not just the well-known ones. I know so many interesting people who have had interesting experiences or made interesting decisions, and I want a legitimate excuse to know all about them. So here is Hello Friend, a podcast that enables me to ask questions of the great people in my life and share their brilliance with the world. Or at least the listeners of this podcast.
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Encouraging people to find what FEELS good in terms of food, movement and their bodies. Let's challenge the wellness w*nkery and start a new conversation. In each episode, Christine and Ela discuss their thoughts on diet and fitness fads, speak with fabulous guests about finding peace with food and movement, and interview experts so that they can share their insights and knowledge with you, the listeners. The hope is that together we can change the narrative around fitness and nutrition, and ...
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128: The Lads Choose Their 2025 Books of the Year
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58:33Alice and Bethany pick one book they read each month of 2025 and pit them against each other to determine their book of the year. Full lists available on the What Page Are You On account on Instagram!By What Page Are You On?
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Send us a text Happy holidays everyone! This is a re-release from our January 2025 episode about easing into the new year. If you are thinking you need to change your body in 2026, this may just help you reframe and re-evaluate your goals. We had a great chat about how we can set goals in a sustainable way We also talked about - new year's resoluti…
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Extreme Thinness Culture - How Did We End Up Here AGAIN?!
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32:10Send us a text Spicy one this week. We both believe that individuals have agency and that commenting on an individual's body, whether it be out of 'concern' or otherwise, is just not helpful. But can we call out a cultural shift towards extreme thinness? F*ck yes! We feel that we have to. We have a duty of care as professionals working in the non-d…
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Maybe You're NOT Inconsistent and You DON'T Lack Discipline @rulesandrebellion
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1:00:33Send us a text Tasha and Brandon and their membership - the Village- have been a lifeline for me over the last few months, which personally have been incredibly difficult. They work with recovering perfectionists, folks struggling with burnout and high-achieving humans who are navigating complex life circumstances (clcs) and have lost themselves al…
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Send us a text What a joyful conversation with the one and only Nana Crawford, creator of Jigglefitt. She is a powerhouse and her energy is truly infectious and we hope you love this conversation as much as we did. We talked to Nana about the following topics: Body Acceptance after having kids and seeing your body change out of recognition How to g…
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GLP-1s - Why Informed Consent is Key, with Aoife McMahon @thatirishdietitian
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47:28Send us a text Before I share the show notes below, a quick disclaimer: this episode is for information and education purposes only and does not focus on medical risk/ replace advice from a medical professional. If you are taking any weight loss drug or are considering taking one, please consult with a professional/ your healthcare provider. Now - …
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Can Hypnotherapy Help in Eating Disorder Recovery? With Dr Rachel Evans
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50:06Send us a text We had the pleasure of chatting with Dr Rachel Evans for this episode - and we absolutely loved her multi-faceted approach to eating disorder recovery. Rachel draws on her own lived experience with Bulimia, and uses lots of different therapeutic modalities in her client sessions so that each session is tailored exactly to the individ…
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Body Image, Eating Disorder Recovery and Cake, with Dr Kamila Irvine - RE-RELEASE
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51:41Send us a text We are re-releasing this to coincide with the APPG report from Dump The Scales, that was delivered to Number 10 yesterday, alongside a petition calling for an inquiry into all eating disorder deaths. You can find the full report here It's always humbling to speak to our amazing experts, and our conversation with Dr Kamila Irvine was …
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Dr Jenn Salib Huber. Accepting Your Changing Body Through Peri to Post Menopause (Re-Release)
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57:55Send us a text To celebrate the release of Jenn's first book - Eat to Thrive, we are re-releasing this impactful conversation with Jenn, which remains our most popular episode to date! What an episode. I realised about 20 minutes of chatting to Jenn that I wanted to work with her so immediately signed up to her Midlife Feast Community. Dr Jenn Sali…
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Pilates Princesses Vs Muscle Mommies. Our Take.
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30:32Send us a text This was a feisty conversation. The conversation was inspired by an article from Mikala Jamison on Substack, entitled 'The Long Con of Pilates Culture.' This is by no means a takedown of Pilates as a movement modality. I (Christine) am a Pilates teacher myself and swear by its considerable benefits, however, I would not be inclined t…
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Exercise Without Agenda. A Quietly Radical Approach with Author Bethany Rutter
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50:44Send us a text Bethany Rutter is an author and online personal trainer. She is the author of four books for young people and two books for adults. Her next novel is Ask Me Anything, out November 2025. It was a joy to speak with Bethany - so refreshing to hear how she has come to be chill with the body she is in and how she has come from hating PE a…
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Body Image Disruptors - They Happen to Everyone (and They Suck!)
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33:25Send us a text Christine and I had a really honest conversation about body image disruptors and how we deal with them. Disclaimer: we don't have a 'one-size-fits-all' solution for you! But we are here to validate that they happen to almost everyone, that they suck, and that they can really knock you sideways. It's so hard to avoid comparing yoursel…
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Your body belongs to you. How to get off the diet train once and for all.
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28:53Send us a text If social media were to be believed, everyone is on a diet. No judgement here, believe me. We live in a dieting culture - it is the air we breathe and the sea we swim in. But we are shrinking ourselves in more ways than one, at a time, where we need to take up space and stand up to the establishment, not cower under it. Alok Venom: "…
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Healing through Lifting. The True Meaning of Strength, with Alyssa Ages
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44:23Send us a text Alyssa Ages* is a force to be reckoned with. Author, freelance journalist, crossfit athlete, marathon runner, strong woman competitor, and advocate for strength training and taking up space as a woman. Alyssa talks to us about how strength training, in particular, helped her regain trust and confidence in what her body could do. She …
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Stefanie Michele. How to get out of your head and into your body.
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48:02Send us a text Ela and I have been excited about this episode for quite some time. Stefanie Michele* is a binge eating recovery coach as well as host of the very popular Life After Diets podcast with former guest Sarah Dosanjh. She has recently completed her training as a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and now approaches her recovery coaching th…
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The Problem with Couch to 5k. A Conversation with Jill Angie *Re-Release*
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45:05Send us a text RE-RELEASE of one of my favourite ever interviews from March 2023. Only my 6th episode of the podcast before Ela joined me.❤️ Jill Angie is a trailblazer. She is changing the conversation for fat women over 40 and for anyone who thinks they're too old or too slow. She is making huge waves in the running game and it was an absolute jo…
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127: The Lads Return with a Mid-Year Roundup
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56:52Alice and Bethany catch up halfway through 2025 and chat about some new releases and backlist titles that have charmed them thus far.By What Page Are You On?
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The Skinny Epidemic - Why Are We Shrinking Ourselves Yet Again?
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34:44Send us a text Skinny is back. With a vengeance. We're furious. Listen, we are very much speaking from a position of privilege in terms of both being in straight-sized bodies, but approaching fitness and health through an anti-oppressive and inclusive lens, this is simply not good news. Eating disorders and disordered eating are very much on the ri…
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Send us a text In this episode, I sat down to chat with the incredible Dr Jenn Huber as a guest on the Midlife Feast podcast. At 49, I received an ADHD diagnosis after years of masking. In this episode I share how perimenopause brought long-overlooked symptoms into focus. Together, we unpack how midlife hormonal shifts can amplify ADHD traits and w…
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Bonus Episode: Why are boundaries so hard to set?
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34:37Send us a text We recently had Sarah Dosanjh on the pod and as part of our prep had re-listened to several recent Life After Diets podcast. An episode about boundaries - setting and keeping - really spoke to us, so we decided to do a deep dive. We are by no means experts and in this episode, we simply try to navigate recovery from perfectionism and…
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Michael Ulloa - From Gym Bro To Myth Buster
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48:16Send us a text Michael Ulloa * is well known on social media for myth busting nutri- and fitness-bollocks - he gets posts every day from concerned followers that found yet another load of nonsense in their feed. Moving from gym bro to myth busting was a gradual process for Michael, as was changing his own relationship to movement and nutrition. We …
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Doing The Work. Recovering From Binge Eating Disorder, with Sarah Dosanjh
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49:30Send us a text Oh wow - we had Sarah Dosanjh on the pod!!! And how lovely is she? Sarah is a qualified and BACP-accredited psychotherapist specialising in binge eating — not just through training, but lived experience too. After over a decade of struggling with binge eating and bulimia, it was deep inner work that finally transformed her relationsh…
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Send us a text (That's not how we actually feel by the way!) This is another solo/ duo episode where we shoot the sh*t and talk about all things body image, diet culture and embracing our 'here and now' bodies. Christine's husband asked her to join him on his 'HELL' run this Saturday and it got us thinking about how so many of us see exercise as a …
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Getting Started With Mindful Eating, When You Struggle To Relax
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32:24Send us a text Have you heard of mindful eating? Maybe you struggle with the idea of eating a piece of chocolate 'mindfully' and perhaps it is even reminiscent of your dieting or disordered eating days, where you savoured each mouthful and ate as slowly as you could to try and convince yourself you were having 'enough' food. But as Ela tells us, mi…
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Embracing Your Summer Body WITHOUT Weight Loss...
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42:46Send us a text It's that time of year again... As the sun comes out, we are expected to neatly deal with the transition from winter to summer clothes - and our bodies are even more scrutinised than usual and critically assessed as to their suitability to wear bikinis as well as our skin-exposing summer wardrobes. We had a very personal conversation…
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Trey Joseph. Creating Safe Fitness Spaces for Marginalised Genders
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57:22Send us a text Creating an inclusive and safe space for everyone to explore movement and work out can be challenging - Trey Joseph took on that challenge and through his own experience of living in a marginalised body as a transgender man and learning how to coach from a trauma informed lens he is DOING JUST THAT! We had such a great conversation w…
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What Does A Trauma Informed Yoga Class Look Like?
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46:29Send us a text You may have heard the term 'trauma-informed' and been drawn to it, but maybe aren't entirely sure what it means. Maybe you struggle with group exercise as you just find the environment triggering or feel uncomfortable saying no to hands on assists. Maybe you'd like to try more in-person classes but just don't feel safe. Maybe you're…
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Breaking the Binge Eating Cycle, with Milda Zolubaite
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38:10Send us a text Ela was flying solo for this episode, speaking with the wonderful Milda Zolubaite, who is a Registered Nutritional Therapy Practitioner and Disordered Eating Specialist. Having struggled with disordered eating and binge eating herself, Milda is passionate about helping people find a way to break the binge-restrict cycle. In this epis…
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How To Start Liking Our Bodies, and Ourselves a Little More......
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34:11Send us a text Now there's a question! Do you like yourself? Ela and I would say we're both working on it and that's ok. For me, leading with self-compassion has been the game changer. So many of us engage in negative self talk and thankfully now we know about neural plasticity and the more we challenge these negative thoughts, the more resilience …
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Body Image, Eating Disorder Recovery and Cake, with Dr Kamila Irvine
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50:45Send us a text It's always humbling to speak to our amazing experts and our conversation with Dr Kamila Irvine was no exception! Whilst she is a very senior researcher and serious advocate for weight-inclusivity, she is also incredibly good fun to chat to and we could have gone on for much longer! We talked about: - how body image is susceptible to…
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Movement is the Destination. A Conversation with Damali Fraiser
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43:07Send us a text As Christine so aptly put it: What a powerhouse! Our conversation with Damali Fraiser was vulnerable, open and incredibly interesting. We talked about: - how to navigate body changes as we age and as we adapt to hormonal changes and injury - Damali's journey of recovering from her hysterectomy - how to coach with a trauma informed an…
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How Much Should We Really Be Eating, with Priya Tew
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46:14Send us a text Today we had the pleasure of welcoming Priya Tew* to the pod. If you are in recovery from an eating disorder, have ever experienced disordered eating or just struggle to know what you should be eating, this episode is for you. Ela and I are confirmed anti-dieters but this chat reinforced for us the need for nuanced conversations. con…
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Grief, Body Image and Coping Strategies When You're Struggling.
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29:52Send us a text This one was tough but I'm not one to shy away from hard topics of conversation. Ela and I spend our lives swimming upstream, and going against the grain in terms of our work with clients and the content we share with you. This is a raw one. As soon as mum passed away, body image dissatisfaction peaked in me. Although it seemed so fr…
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Dealing with Perimenopause Weight Gain, with Alex Pett
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25:23Send us a text Ela was a guest on this fabulous podcast, hosted by Alex Pett. Alex kindly allowed us to share the episode with our listeners, as we think it might be relevant and interesting for you! Her details are below, check out her resilience coaching and the brilliant podcast! Here is some information about the episode: So many women gain wei…
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Send us a text There is a lot of science behind the benefits of movement, but using that to create a bunch of rules on how we 'should' or 'shouldn't' exercise is ignoring the fact that everyone's goals are different, that people's needs and what's available to them are different, and that what we enjoy or dislike is very subjective. The science is …
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Eating Disorder Recovery IS possible, with Debbie Lesko
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43:21Send us a text We had the absolute pleasure to chat to the wonderful Debbie Lesko - the person behind the well-known and -loved platform 'Diets don't work' @diets_dont_work_haes1 (Facebook and Instagram) Debbie Lesko is a 69 year old grandmother whose passion is to educate people of all ages, sizes, race, sexual identity of the dangers of diet cult…
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Rebooting, Reframing, Re-evaluating - Ease into the New Year
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32:29Send us a text Happy 2025 everyone! To start the new year, we had a great chat about how we can set goals in a sustainable way We also talked about - new year's resolutions and how we have full permission to opt out of making any - how we can set more sustainable goals and not get sucked into quick-fix 'solutions' - how weight is unhelpful as a foc…
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Self-Care, Mindfulness and Boundaries in the Festive Season
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26:53Send us a text Guest-less but certainly not clue-less - our Christmas episode is full of our thoughts about how we can set boundaries during the festive season, how to prioritise enjoyment and use mindfulness to make sure we stay present and focus on looking after ourselves with kindness. Many people feel overwhelmed during this time of year, anxie…
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126: The Lads Give Their 2024 Books of the Year
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43:23Alice and Bethany make a cheeky little top 10 of their favourite books of the year! Head to our Instagram for the full list.By What Page Are You On?
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You Don't HAVE to Lift Weights, with Dr Lisa Folden @healthyphit
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45:15Send us a text Ela and I LOVED this conversation. It was a chance for us to debunk popular fitness culture myths and talk about why we don't all need to be lifting heavy shit, if it doesn't work for us and WHY even 5 minutes of movement counts. Dr. Lisa brings something unique to this space, specialising in physical therapy and body image. Her own …
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Body Happy Kids and Teens, with Molly Forbes @bodyhappyorg
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54:09Send us a text What a joy to have Molly Forbes on the pod! Molly Forbes is an author, campaigner, and journalist. Her first book, Body Happy Kids (for adults), was published by Vermilion in 2021, followed by Every Body (for readers 9+) in 2024, which won Highly Commended in the Health & Wellbeing category of the Teach Primary Awards. That same year…
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125: The Lads Create Their 2024 Gift Guide
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27:55Doing a spot of Christmas book shopping and thirsty for recommendations? Alice and Bethany have you covered. They each choose a fiction, a non-fiction, a food and drink, a reissue and the book they'd most like someone to give them.By What Page Are You On?
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REAL Body Acceptance. An Episode on Body Grief with Bri Campos.
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49:27Send us a text Bri Campos is a tour de force. She believes wholeheartedly in creating language around body image and encourages non-diet and intuitive eating providers not to skirt the issue. We chat about how integral building a relationship with our bodies can hugely impact how we feel about ourselves and how we show up for others. Main Takeaways…
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124: The Lads Catch Up On Their Recent Reading Habits
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33:10Alice and Bethany catch up on what they've been reading, but it turns out it's been a weird reading year for them both. Much yapping lies ahead.By What Page Are You On?
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Why Body Representation Matters, with Emily Williams from Every Body Outdoors
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51:10Send us a text Wow, what a fantastic conversation with the fabulous Emily Williams - and our first to be released on YouTube (you can watch it here!) Emily is the Director and Co-founder of Every Body Outdoors and loves the outdoors - at the moment mostly cycling and wild swimming, but also paddleboarding, canoeing, camping and exploring and anythi…
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Wegovy, Weight loss and Accepting Our Bodies - Kate's body story
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56:18Send us a text Trigger warning: We talk about weight, calories, wegovy and eating disorders in this episode. Please take care of yourselves and show discretion if any little ones are nearby. Another episode in our YOUR Bodies series where we talk to YOU about your experience with dieting, movement and your body. This week we are chatting to Kate. K…
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Body Image Healing and Rest. The One with Bri Campos.
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42:21Send us a text This conversation with Bri Campos had a huge impact on me. It was confronting and resonated deeply. I am currently doing some business coaching with Bri and invited her to talk to me about rest and about the fact that MANY of us, feel like we have a great relationship with movement and our bodies but are perhaps stuck in that bargain…
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Send us a text We are so grateful to Nicky for spending time with us and chatting about her body story, how she found balance in her life by exploring movement, and how her recent ADHD diagnosis helps her navigate her relationship to food and movement. Nicky, 44, is from Exeter and lives with her husband Chris. She has suddenly found a love for mov…
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Rehabbing Our Relationship with Our Body. A Conversation with Hannah Husband
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40:56Send us a text I have been SO excited to bring you this episode as I know it will speak to so many of you. Hannah Husband (they/them) is a body liberation coach. Think of Hannah as a couples therapist for the relationship between you and your body. They help the two of you fall in love with movement all over again (or for the very first time.) Hann…
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123: The Lads Gather Autumn/Winter Recommendations
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33:31Alice and Bethany chat through a few of the books they're excited about for the rest of the year, and ask their author and bookseller friends for more recommendations! Because of the way we have to record episodes in advance, at least one of the books is already out, so if any of them sound good to you, it may be possible to read them already rathe…
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