somewhere in between - der ort zwischen chaos und klarheit. hier geht es um die übergänge, die widersprüche, die fragen, die sich nicht sofort beantworten lassen. es geht um transformation in all ihren facetten. um identität. um das gefühl, irgendwo zwischen versionen deiner selbst zu stehen. es geht auch um all die farben zwischen den wahrheiten. nicht entweder oder. sondern ein sowohl als auch. wissenschaft & spiritualität verbindend. nimm dir mit, was dich nährt. und lass den rest einfach ...
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A podcast that focuses on conversations & stories around Asian American Pacific Islander (AAPI) maternal mental health, hosted by Taiwanese American mothers Peggy (LCSW, PMH-C) & Jasmine (PharmD, PMH-C) who are also postpartum depression and postpartum anxiety survivors. Mental health is not talked about enough in our AAPI communities, and we want to break these stigmas especially for mothers and partners. As AAPI healthcare providers who personally struggled during postpartum and are now pe ...
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6 - menschen besser verstehen – “the 6 stages of personal power”
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25:34in dieser folge lernst du ein modell kennen, das dir hilft, menschen wirklich zu verstehen und vor allem zu akzeptieren, wie sie sind. wir sprechen über “the six stages of personal power” nach janet o. hagberg. du erfährst, wie unterschiedlich wir denken, fühlen und handeln – je nachdem, auf welcher inneren stufe wir gerade stehen. ich teile beispi…
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Ep. 38 - Permission to Break Generational Cycles with Dr. Jenny T. Wang, PhD
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1:09:46May is AAPI Heritage Month and also Maternal Mental Health month, and what better cross section to represent these things than our podcast! For this special month, we have the absolute pleasure and honor of interviewing Dr. Jenny T. Wang, PhD. Many of you may know of Dr. Jenny, but for those who do not, she is a Taiwanese American clinical psycholo…
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5 - zwischen techno & meditation: über gegensätze & rollenbilder in uns
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15:41vielleicht musst du dich nicht entscheiden. zwischen wild und weise. zwischen rational und intuitiv. zwischen sichtbar und leise. du darfst beides sein. in dieser folge geht es um gegensätze. darum, wie identitäten, rollen und gegensätze eigentlich ineinandergreifen. warum wir glauben, eindeutig sein zu müssen und warum genau das der grund ist, war…
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4 - "ich bin halt so!" - über identitäten, die wir über uns erzählen
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15:56du sagst „ich bin halt so“ – und meinst damit: so bin ich eben. aber was, wenn dieses „so“ gar nicht mehr zu dir passt? in dieser folge geht’s um identitäten. um alte geschichten, die wir über uns erzählen. um fremdzuschreibungen, die sich wie eigenschaften anfühlen. und um die stille erkenntnis, dass du heute jemand anderes sein darfst als früher.…
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Ep. 37 - Beyond Biology: On Creating a Family as a Biracial Queer Mother with Elise Ruiz-Hom
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51:35In this heartfelt episode, our guest Elise Ruiz-Hom, a Portland-based new mom, shares the powerful story of her and her wife Lydia’s years-long journey to parenthood. Raised in a multicultural, biracial family in Hawai'i, Elise reflects on how her identity has shaped her worldview—especially as a white-passing Asian woman navigating life on the mai…
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3 - struggle der 30er - zwischen freiheit und verantwortung
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24:01du bist mitte 30 – und plötzlich ist alles irgendwie anders. du hast vielleicht einen job, eine wohnung, ein leben aufgebaut – und trotzdem fühlst du dich, als würdest du auf einem unsichtbaren zwischenboden stehen.nicht mehr ganz dort, wo du warst. aber auch noch nicht da, wo du hinwillst. in dieser folge nehme ich dich mit in genau diesen raum zw…
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2 - angst vor sichtbarkeit - "was denken die anderen über mich?"
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21:17du willst dich zeigen – aber irgendetwas in dir zieht die handbremse. du hast eine idee, eine meinung, eine stimme – aber bevor du sie aussprichst, hältst du sie zurück. in dieser folge geht es um genau diesen moment. um das spannungsfeld zwischen dem wunsch, sichtbar zu sein, und der angst, wirklich gesehen zu werden. ich spreche darüber, was in d…
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1 - "ich kann mich einfach nicht entscheiden" - lost in der entscheidungsfindung
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18:15es geht um dieses gefühl, wenn alles in dir denkt und fühlt – aber du trotzdem irgendwie auf pause stehst. wenn entscheidungen schwerfallen, nicht weil du keine möglichkeiten hättest, sondern weil alles gleichzeitig offen ist. in dieser folge schauen wir gemeinsam hin: woran du erkennst, dass du gerade im dazwischen festhängst, was in deinem körper…
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willkommen bei somewhere in between – dem ort zwischen chaos und klarheit. in diesem podcast geht es um impulse, perspektiven und fragen rund um beziehungen, karriere, kinderwunsch, sinnsuche und all die lebensbereiche, in denen wir uns manchmal verlieren – und uns gleichzeitig immer näherkommen. es geht um transformation in all ihren facetten. um …
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Ep. 36 - Supporting Parents of Neurodivergent Children with Clarissa Chui, LCSW
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56:59Among our AAPI community, it can feel like not enough people talk about the neurodivergent population and how it can impact their families and communities because of a heavy stigma–a stigma that echoes the one around talking about mental health. Our guest for this episode is Clarissa Chui, LCSW, a second generation Chinese American therapist, who w…
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Ep. 35 - The Truth About Postpartum Psychosis with Jigyna Patel, PMH-C
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1:01:04Of all the perinatal mental health disorders, postpartum psychosis is considered a medical emergency and absolutely requires treatment. It affects 1 to 2 in 1000 mothers and is often misunderstood. On this episode, our guest is Jigyna Patel, a South Asian mom of 3 girls from Houston, Texas. Her perinatal story spans over 10 years, including many di…
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Ep. 34 - Ayurvedic Nourishment for Breastfeeding and Postpartum Healing with Anhoni Patel
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1:00:33On today's episode, we sit down and talk about breastfeeding and mental health with Anhoni Patel, the founder of the popular Mrs. Patel's Ayurvedic Treats and Teas for lactation and pregnancy support. Anhoni started her small business in 2012 while 4 months postpartum with her second child to make Ayurvedic inspired treats and teas to support pregn…
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Ep. 33 - From Head to Toe: Postpartum Recovery, Inside and Out with Jen Chae
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1:01:56Today's guest is someone Peggy and Jasmine have grown up with in their college years through early adulthood and motherhood, and we were so excited and honored to interview her. You may know her too as one of the OG YouTube content creators, FrmHeadtoToe! Jen Chae is a Korean American beauty and lifestyle content creator. Over the last 16 years she…
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Ep. 32 - Expecting the Unexpected: A Realistic Look at Ways to Prepare for Postpartum
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59:56Last year, a Patreon member suggested that we should have an episode for the expectant new mom that they can refer friends to as a resource, not necessarily focused on just perinatal mental health disorders but how to better prepare for new motherhood in general. We know it can be kind of scary to hear about all the things that could happen and in …
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Ep. 31 - After Therapy and Medications: Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation with Stephanie Wu, OT, PMH-C
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47:36Today's episode dives into a different side of postpartum depression and treatment options that are not as widely discussed. We were joined on this episode by Stephanie Wu, a Taiwanese American occupational therapist and perinatal mental health certified professional, who talked to us about her treatment resistant depression after the birth of her …
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Ep. 30 - Punchlines and Postpartum Rage: A Comedian Mom’s Healing Journey with Alyce Chan
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40:19To kick off 2025, we invited Alyce Chan, stand up comedian and founder of MomCom NYC onto the podcast! Alyce is a Chinese Canadian/American mom of two boys and has been featured in the New York Comedy Festival and placed finalist in the esteemed Boston comedy festival. You've likely seen her work on ScaryMommy and other major parenting platforms. A…
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Ep. 29 - Rethinking Motherhood Through Adoption with Katy Wang
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1:07:17The episode today explores two big themes we haven't touched upon yet on this podcast-- being child-free by choice and then the journey of adoption. Our guest today is Katy Wang, a Taiwanese American early childhood educator for the past 15 years in both private and independent schools all over the Bay Area. Katy has held a variety of positions--ev…
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Ep. 28 - From Military Service to Motherhood Sanctuary with Stephiney Foley
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57:21In honor of Veterans’ Day this month, we wanted to highlight a motherhood journey of a veteran who not only served her country but also now serves the needs of so many mothers in their postpartum period. Our guest today is none other than Stephiney Foley, CEO and Founder of Yuzi Care. She is a postpartum doula, army veteran, military spouse, West P…
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Ep. 27 - The Manicurist's Daughter: A Story of Death and Rebirth of Motherhood with Susan Lieu
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1:07:13For this next episode, we were so excited to interview Susan Lieu, the Vietnamese American author of the moving memoir The Manicurist's Daughter. This debut memoir has been featured not only on Apple but in the New York Times, NPR books, Elle Magazine, LA Times, and the Washington Post. We talk with Susan about how losing her mother at a young age …
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Ep. 26 - To Tend and To Hold: Pregnancy and Infant Loss with Eileen Santos Rosete
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1:05:59Trigger Warning: We will be discussing pregnancy loss in this episode. In honor of Pregnancy and Infant Loss Month, we wanted to share the story of our next guest, Eileen Santos Rosete. Eileen is Filipino American and it's fitting she is our guest this month too, as October is also Filipino American History Month. She holds a master of science in m…
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Ep. 25 - The Impact of a Fitness Blogger's Postpartum Depression Story with Sia Clyde
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48:25Today's guest has a personal story behind it, and we're very honored to have on Sia Clyde, an influential mommy fitness blogger and NASM-certified personal trainer! When Jasmine (one of our show's co-hosts) was in the depths of her postpartum depression and insomnia, her husband sent her an email late one night with some blog posts talking about po…
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Ep. 24 - Remembering Nima: A Husband's Voice in the Fight Against Maternal Suicide with Deven Bhakta
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1:02:10Maternal suicide is one of the leading causes of maternal mortality in the U.S. and up to 20% of maternal deaths are due to suicide. People of color are more likely to report suicidal ideation in the immediate postpartum period as compared to their white counterparts, with Asian women cited as 9x more likely. Yet, we don't hear about the stories as…
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Ep. 23 - Love Makes A Family: A Gay Father's Surrogacy Journey with Henry Tieu
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1:04:34One of the things we really wanted to make sure to do on Healing the Tigress was to be as inclusive as possible of all our AAPI folks’ stories. And that also means we want to make sure to highlight stories of AAPI LGBTQ+ parents and their mental health as well. For our first guest of this season, we were very excited to have the popular wedding and…
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Ep. 22 - Kicking off Season Two: Big Announcements and Surprises!
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34:11We are baaack!! We can't believe we're in a second season of Healing the Tigress and we truly have you, the listeners, to thank! In this opening episode for the season, Jasmine and Peggy catch everyone up with what Peggy has been up to over the summer break--including passing her own PMH-C (perinatal mental health certification) test. So now, we ha…
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Ep. 21 - Healing Our Makuahine with Dr. Kalena Kaopuuokalani Lanuza, DNP, FNP-C, PMHNP-BC, CLC
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1:00:50For our season finale, we are joined by the wonderful Dr. Kalena Kaopuuokalani Lanuza, who is a doctorally prepared Certified Family and Psychiatric Mental Health Nurse Practitioner and Certified Lactation Counselor. She specializes in reproductive psychiatric mental health and cares for Native Hawaiian and Pasifika wāhine (women) in Hawai'i and th…
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Ep. 20 - Becoming Dad: The Catalyst to Mental Health with Dr. Matt Dinh, PharmD
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1:03:24For Father's Day and Men's Mental Health Month, we wanted to get another AAPI dad on the show to talk about their experience in fatherhood in relationship to mental health. Joining us for this episode is Dr. Matt Dinh, PharmD, who is a Vietnamese American father of two and a pharmacist by trade. Matt talks to us about how his wife did not experienc…
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Ep. 19 - Keeping Faith in the Journey of IVF with Dr. Joyce Park, MD
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42:46Infertility impacts one in six people of reproductive age and nearly one in four female physicians who are trying to have a baby face infertility issues. This statistic is no mystery to our guest, Dr. Joyce Park, who many of you may know as @TeaWithMD on social media. Joyce's journey with IVF began when her firstborn was just 18 months old, after t…
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Ep. 18 - Bipolar Disorder and the Pursuit of Motherhood with Michelle Yang
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58:33Bipolar disorder affects 2-3% of the general population, and about half of the women with bipolar disorder are first diagnosed in the postpartum period. In today's episode, we talk with a mother with lived experience of bipolar 1 disorder and how it affected her journey to and through motherhood. Michelle Yang is third generation ethnic Chinese bor…
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Ep. 17 - Debunking Myths about Perinatal Psychiatric Medications with Dr. Niya Dhand, MD
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50:15For Maternal Mental Health Month, we knew we wanted to have a discussion on medications in the perinatal period. Because as much as AAPI folks can be reluctant to do therapy, they can also be just as wary about taking medications. But sometimes medications can play an important role in recovery, just like therapy can. So we wanted to talk with an e…
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Ep. 16 - The Untold Story of Postpartum Insomnia with Dr. Jasmine, PharmD, PMH-C
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55:36Many of you have heard or read about Dr. Jasmine's postpartum depression story and know that insomnia was a huge piece of the story. While "postpartum insomnia" is not a true technical diagnosis, many moms have reached out to her about feeling so lost, confused, and unseen in their insomnia struggles after having a baby too -- especially after Jasm…
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Ep. 15 - Demystifying Perinatal Obsessive Compulsive Disorder with Allison Livingston
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52:28We are thrilled to have Allison Livingston on our podcast for today's episode to talk about her lived experience with perinatal obsessive compulsive disorder (OCD) and postpartum depression (PPD). Allison is a Korean-American adoptee and a mom of two. She has a B.A. in International Business and a M.A. in Early Childhood Education. Allison was a te…
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Ep. 14 - How We Break the Stigma Through Sharing Stories with Shivani Hiralal
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58:45TW: Topics of miscarriage and suicide are briefly discussed in this episode. You may recognize our next guest from a New York Times story featuring real-life women's stories on postpartum depression last summer. In this episode, we talk with Shivani Hiralal about her experiences with miscarriages, an ectopic pregnancy, a traumatic birth, and then p…
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Ep. 13 - The Invisible Struggle of Miscarriage & Secondary Infertility with Val (@thewabisabimama)
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1:03:11Recently we had an episode on the decision to have just one child, but there is another side to “one and done” families who may not be this way by choice. We offer a Trigger Warning before you listen that this episode does talk about miscarriage. For this episode, we sit down with Val from @thewabisabimama to talk about her motherhood story. Val is…
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Ep. 12 - Public Policy, Prejudice, and Postpartum with Divya Kumar, LICSW, ScM, PMH-C
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1:05:41The episode today is rich with a wide range of topics from public policy, to race and racism, to PPD/PPA/PPOCD. A heartwarming message we also get to highlight is how it’s never too late to change your career and chase your dreams. Divya Kumar, LICSW, ScM, PMH-C is a South Asian-American psychotherapist with a public health background who specializ…
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Ep. 11 - Behind the Choice of Being One and Done with Shannon Eng
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58:12TW: Miscarriages are briefly discussed in this episode. If you asked Shannon Eng when she was younger how many kids she wanted, she might have told you ten! She thought she wanted a lot of children, despite being an only child herself. And then she became a mother right before the world shut down for a global pandemic. The idea of having more child…
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Ep. 10 - "Untigering" in Motherhood, Parenting, and Reclaiming Identity with Iris Chen
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58:24You may know our latest guest as the popular "Untigering" on Instagram or from her book by the same name. Iris Chen is a recovering tiger mother, parent coach, and founder of the Untigering movement. After seeing the negative effects of authoritarian parenting and unhealthy cultural expectations in her own life, Iris is now on a mission to promote …
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Ep. 9 - The Grief Catcher: Fatherhood in Postpartum with J.S. Park
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46:07TW: We do discuss suicidal thoughts and miscarriage in this episode. Even though Healing the Tigress is about maternal mental health, we cannot have these conversations with just moms. Men, dads, partners all play a role in the healing process as well, and they themselves also deserve the same support and care for their own mental health as they st…
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Ep. 8 - Motherhood Overseas: Navigating Traumatic Birth and Postpartum Abroad with Tisha Kachhapati, MBPsS, MBACP
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57:10Please help us welcome our first international guest! Tisha Kachhapati, MBPsS, MBACP, is a Nepalese American psychodynamic counselor now living abroad and based in the United Kingdom for the past decade. She is what we would consider an ex-pat, but as we discuss, she mentions that because she is a person of color, people often call her an “immigran…
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Bonus Episode - Re-cap Before the Holidays!
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32:27We took a short break while Jasmine was studying for her PMH-C test, but now that she has taken it and passed (yay!), we wanted to throw in one last bonus episode for 2023. Pull up a chair and grab a mug of hot cocoa (or your drink of choice) to listen in on an open, completely unedited conversation between Peggy and Jasmine, reflecting on how this…
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Ep. 7 - How Gentle Parenting Started the Journey to Healing and Identity with KJ Althoff
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1:01:14A lot of AAPI parents these days are breaking generational cycles by parenting differently. You may know KJ Althoff as "Gentle Healing Mom" on Instagram, and in today's episode, we have the honor to hear her share her story for the very first time about her Filipino background and how it plays a role in her childhood traumas and motherhood journey …
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Ep. 6 - Postpartum Depression Cannot Be Boxed Into One Year with Leah Kim
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59:01Leah Kim has been a long-time writer and champion of mental health, narrating her personal stories and essays so poignantly about her childhood trauma, growing up a daughter of a mentally unwell mother, and then battling postpartum depression (PPD), anxiety, panic disorder, and PTSD when she became a mother. We were so fortunate to sit down with Le…
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Ep. 5 - Holding Onto Joy After Pregnancy Losses with Katrina dela Cruz, LCSW
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53:55Trigger Warning: This episode discusses Pregnancy Loss and Termination For Medical Reasons “The Sun shone brightest the day you returned to the sky,” writes Katrina dela Cruz to her son, Zeo Thomas, who was 19 weeks in the womb when she lost him. It happened to be Summer Solstice that day. Not long after, she unexpectedly had a miscarriage of anoth…
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Ep. 4 - Finding the Good Enough Mother during Postpartum Anxiety with Peggy, LCSW
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59:56What happens when you’re a mental health professional who knows more than enough about postpartum depression and you embark on your own postpartum journey—only to discover that there’s a whole world of postpartum anxiety you’ve never seen? In today’s episode, our Healing the Tigress cohost, Peggy, shares her story about how she was blindsided by po…
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Ep. 3 - Single Teen Mom Overcomes PPD and Finds New Success with Tiffany Cheung
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1:08:43"It takes a village," we're often told about motherhood. But what happens when you're a single teen mom who had to move out of the home she grew up in while pregnant and even your (Asian) church community isolated your parents? Add on top of that the Asian mentality of "saving face" and there's a whole other complex layer that everything is stacked…
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Ep. 2 - Break the Stigma for Nima: A Conversation on Maternal Suicide with Priya Bhakta
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57:06Trigger Warning: This episode will discuss maternal suicide. On today's episode, we are sitting down with Priya Bhakta, the sister of Nima Bhakta, who died by suicide on July 24, 2020. Nima was a new mother suffering with postpartum depression (PPD) and unfortunately lost the battle when her son was just over half a year old. Priya graciously talke…
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Ep. 1 - When Eastern and Western Medicine Intersect During PPD with Dr. Jasmine, PharmD, PMH-C
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59:48You may have heard of Dr. Jasmine’s story of severe PPD and PPA on her blog or her Instagram— Pearls of Jasmine. She is one of the co-hosts of this podcast, a clinical pharmacist, perinatal mental health certified, mom of one, and a second-generation Taiwanese American. This episode dives deeper into the cultural layers and intersection of her iden…
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Ep. 0 - How "Healing the Tigress" was Born
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24:16Welcome to our pilot episode of Healing the Tigress! This episode introduces your hosts: Peggy, a licensed clinical social worker, and Jasmine, a clinical pharmacist. Both Peggy and Jasmine are second-generation Taiwanese-American mothers who are survivors of postpartum depression and anxiety and have a passion for making AAPI voices heard, especia…
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