In this unforgettable episode, Tracy Cartwright sits down with the extraordinary Michelle Blechner—an 82-year-old powerhouse with decades of spiritual and systemic experience—to explore what it means to carry pain that isn't ours.

Michelle shares stories from her remarkable life: born during WWII in France, surviving profound family trauma, and later discovering Family Constellations as a path to transformation. From her training with Bert Hellinger to speaking on Tony Robbins’ global stage, Michelle brings the wisdom of lived experience, sharp insight, and fierce compassion.

Together, Tracy and Michelle explore:

• The hidden inheritance of trauma across generations
• How we unknowingly carry pain, guilt, or grief that belongs to others
• What it takes to give it back—with love and respect
• The beauty of systemic work in business, relationships, and spiritual healing
• The ripple effect of healing, especially when men step into the field

You’ll also hear the moving story behind Michelle’s AI-generated song “This Pain Is Not Mine”—a hauntingly beautiful expression of collective and ancestral grief.

If you’ve ever wondered why some wounds feel deeper than your own life experiences, this conversation will speak to your soul.

Connect with Jacqui:

🌍 Website: michelleblechner.com

I’d love to hear what resonates with you—drop me a message on Instagram @tracy.cartwright and for more insights visit my website at tracycartwright.co.nz

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