Using the techniques that have helped cement $148,646,000 in yearly traffic value for their clients, Siege Media and founder Ross Hudgens dive into the executional nitty gritty of what makes content rank, and how to get content shared. Topics include content marketing, SEO, digital PR, user experience and more.
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Learn powerful and profitable high-ROI marketing tips from Tim Cameron-Kitchen, founder of the relentlessly high-impact digital marketing agency, Exposure Ninja. Visit https://exposureninja.com/podcast for show notes and links.
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From Content Engine to Freedom Engine w/ Chris Walker
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49:01Chris Walker (CEO of Passetto) joins Ross to talk about personal transformation, scaling through delegation, and why most entrepreneurs are chasing the wrong kind of freedom.Chris shares insights from his month-long sabbatical, including frameworks for creating true independence—beyond just financial freedom—and lessons learned about leadership, ag…
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The SEO Behind Zillow’s 1 Billion Visits/Year w/ Kristan Bauer
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43:14Kristan Bauer returns for a deep dive into the technical and organizational SEO strategies that helped Zillow grow to nearly 2 billion annual visits. She shares tactical insights on enterprise SEO at scale, including testing frameworks, internal collaboration, indexing strategies, and what it takes to lead with executive presence in a high-stakes e…
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Did Google Just "Confirm" That You Can’t Add E-E-A-T To Your Website?
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40:48Welcome to The Dojo, a search marketing news podcast for goal-driven marketing leaders, hosted by Exposure Ninja, featuring Charlie Marchant (CEO) and Dale Davies (Head of Marketing). "Sorry, you can’t sprinkle some experiences on your web pages." Google just dropped a bombshell statement claiming "you can't add E-E-A-T to your website" — but this …
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Is Technical SEO Dying? + What to Do Instead w/ Eli Schwartz
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48:07Ross welcomes Eli Schwartz, author of Product-Led SEO , to unpack the evolving role of SEO in a world shaped by AI, shifting perceptions, and organizational challenges. Eli dives into why SEO is being deprioritized, what companies are getting wrong, and how product-led SEO is the path forward. They cover layoffs, agency churn, the role of growth te…
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5 Signs It's Time To Redesign Your Website
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16:53Is your website failing to convert visitors into customers? The problem might be deeper than you think — and it could be costing your business significant revenue every day. For most businesses, your website is your single most important marketing asset. Yet many marketing leaders struggle to pinpoint exactly why their sites underperform or how to …
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Everything Marketing Leaders Should Know About Google’s NEW AI Mode
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38:05Google's new AI Mode is revolutionising search results — and marketing leaders must adapt their strategies now to maintain visibility and traffic. Currently in US labs testing, AI Mode completely transforms the traditional search experience by providing fully AI-generated answers rather than the familiar "10 blue links" we've relied on for decades.…
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Yes, You Do Need a Bing Strategy w/ Botify’s AJ Ghergich
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45:52Ross sits down with A.J. Ghergich, VP of Consulting Services at Botify, to unpack enterprise SEO, AI governance, and why SEOs absolutely need a Bing strategy in 2025. A.J. shares the story of how he landed the rare @SEO Twitter handle and what it’s meant for his visibility in the industry. They dive into findings from Botify’s latest AI survey, hig…
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eCommerce giant Sephora has built a $7.2 billion brand with masterful traditional search dominance, but they're making a critical mistake that could cost them millions in the emerging AI search landscape. While Sephora excels with 18 million monthly organic visits and prime rankings for competitive keywords, our analysis reveals they're almost comp…
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Could This Could Replace Domain Authority? w/ Dr. Pete
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44:23Ross sits down with Dr. Pete Meyers of Moz to discuss the ever-changing landscape of SEO, the impact of AI overviews, and how Moz is adapting to a rapidly evolving industry. They dive into the challenges of innovation in a competitive space, the role of brand authority versus domain authority, and the data-driven future of search marketing. Plus, D…
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Copy This HIGH-ROI Email Marketing Strategy in 2025
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1:09:29The following is a BONUS EPISODE recorded by the Exposure Ninja team. ---------- Email marketing continues to deliver the highest ROI of any digital channel in 2025 — but only for marketers who understand the critical shifts transforming this landscape. While many marketing leaders report diminishing returns from their email efforts, forward-thinki…
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Inside Ahrefs’ $100M Growth: Tim Soulo on SEO, Content, and Social
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49:37Ross sits down with Tim Soulo, CMO of Ahrefs, to dive deep into content marketing, SEO, and Ahrefs’ evolving approach to growth. Tim shares insights on how Ahrefs built its marketing team, the role of SEO in today’s digital landscape, and why they’re investing in YouTube, LinkedIn, and thought leadership content. They also discuss the challenges of…
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Has Google's NEW AI Search Changed SEO AGAIN?
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9:30NOTICE — I tried to do this as an audio-only recording, but it doesn't make sense unless you see what I'm screen sharing. If you want to watch the video properly, visit exposure.ninja/ai-mode to watch the video on YouTube instead. --------------------- The search landscape is evolving yet again, with Google launching AI Mode – a direct response to …
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Traffic Down, Revenue Up: A Conversation w/ Rand Fishkin
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50:57Ross welcomes back Rand Fishkin, co-founder of SparkToro and longtime marketing thought leader, for a candid conversation about the evolution of search, audience research, and the shifting tides of digital marketing. Rand shares insights on why SEO’s golden age is behind us, why influence—not traffic—should be marketers’ primary focus, and how PR i…
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The search landscape is evolving beyond Google, and Perplexity.ai is emerging as a powerful new player for high-value audiences — creating unprecedented opportunities for forward-thinking marketers. While still smaller than Google at 15 million monthly active users, Perplexity's audience is exceptionally valuable: 30% hold senior leadership positio…
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Copy This PROVEN Digital PR Strategy in 2025
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55:56The following is a BONUS EPISODE recorded by the Exposure Ninja team. ---------- To dominate digital visibility in 2025, you'll need a proven PR strategy focused on three critical elements: - Your narrative authority - Your data-driven approach - Your multi-channel amplification With AI-generated content flooding the internet, Google's Search Gener…
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Is Marketing the Wrong Home for SEO? w/ Ex-RetailMeNot, Angi Lead
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44:06How do you build SEO strategies that mesh seamlessly with product teams? Ross Hudgens chats with Sharanya Srinivasan, Head of SEO, Product at Boatsetter, about combining strong user experience, savvy engineering partnerships, and growth-focused tactics. Learn how Sharanya’s approach to A/B testing, internal links, and UX research can help you unloc…
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How To Rank in ChatGPT (with REAL Examples!)
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15:35Google's dominance is being challenged for the first time in over a decade, and forward-thinking marketing leaders are capitalising on this pivotal moment. ChatGPT has rocketed to 300 million weekly active users by December 2024 — growing 50% in just four months — whilst Google searches are declining in key markets. This shift isn't just reshaping …
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Breaking SEO News: Barry Schwartz on the Biggest Stories & Trends
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35:34In this episode of Content and Conversation, host Ross Hudgens sits down with Barry Schwartz, President of RustyBrick and a leading voice in SEO. Barry shares his insights into the latest Google algorithm updates, the future of search rankings, and how businesses can adapt their SEO strategies in 2025 and beyond. Tune in for expert analysis, action…
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How Marketing Leaders Can Future-Proof Their Content Strategy
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22:13The marketing playbook we've relied on for years is transforming faster than ever, and I'm seeing opportunities that simply didn't exist before. While Google still dominates with 90% of global search market share, the way people discover content has fundamentally shifted – they're now having multi-platform conversations about products and services …
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How SEO Works in 2025 — A Marketing Leader’s Guide
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28:28I saw SEO change more in 2024 than I ever expected, and in 2025 it’s going to be even bigger. Google might still have 8.5 billion daily searches, but OpenAI’s ChatGPT is catching up quickly with 1 billion daily messages (January 2025). Not only is Google facing a wave of new platforms — it’s also contending with agentic AI, where your audience isn’…
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Every SEO Should Be Doing This Today w/ Wil Reynolds
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51:56In this episode, Ross and guest Wil Reynolds, VP Innovation, SEER, discuss the future of search, AI-driven automation, and why organic social is becoming more important than ever. Wil shares bold insights on how agencies must adapt, the power of thought leadership over traditional content marketing, and the evolving landscape of SEO. Plus, they cov…
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Copy This IMPACTFUL Brand Marketing Strategy in 2025
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1:01:41The following is a BONUS EPISODE recorded by the Exposure Ninja team. ---------- To hit your ambitious marketing goals this year you'll need to have three things perfected: - Your branding - Your positioning - Your marketing With consumer expectations constantly evolving, AI tools eating into Google's share of search, and social platforms becoming …
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Copy This PERFECT Digital Marketing Strategy in 2025
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1:00:38The following is a BONUS EPISODE recorded by the Exposure Ninja team. ---------- Let's be honest: marketing in 2025 feels like navigating a constantly shifting landscape. Every week brings fresh challenges — new AI tools reshape search behaviour, social platforms pivot their algorithms, and just when you think you've mastered your PPC creative and …
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Copy This UNBEATABLE SEO Strategy in 2025
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1:02:35The following is a BONUS EPISODE recorded by the Exposure Ninja team. ----------Here's what most marketers are missing about SEO in 2025: while everyone's rushing to AI tools and ChatGPT, the real search opportunity is still happening exactly where it always has been – on Google. We've analysed the latest search data, and here's the data-driven tru…
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Cyrus Shepard Disavowed His Entire Site: Here’s What Happened
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38:48Join Ross as he sits down with SEO expert Cyrus Shepard to explore why brand building has become essential in today’s search landscape. Cyrus shares what happened when he disavowed every inbound link on his site, why Google seems to reward authenticity over traditional SEO tactics, and how focusing on experience and trust can give you the edge in t…
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SEO has become a zero-sum game. There are only a certain number of slots in any search results page, and claiming one means displacing someone else. In 2025, throwing a few AI-generated articles at your website won't cut it — you need a comprehensive strategy. We know what it takes to win these positions. We do it for hundreds of clients worldwide …
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Copy This PROFITABLE Paid Search Strategy in 2025
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41:20The following is a BONUS EPISODE, hosted by Exposure Ninja's CEO, Charlie Marchant. ---------- Here's what most marketers are missing about Paid Search in 2025: while everyone's rushing to AI tools, the real transformation is happening right under their noses. We've analysed hundreds of campaigns, and here's the data-driven truth: mobile now drives…
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How Sam Parr Mastered Copywriting for a $27M Exit
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46:37In the latest episode of Content and Conversation, Sam Parr, founder of The Hustle and host of My First Million, joins Ross to discuss the art and science of great copywriting, building viral content, and scaling content-driven businesses. Sam shares actionable insights into hiring creative talent, writing headlines that convert, and why simplicity…
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I've uncovered something fascinating in the digital marketing world, and I need to share it with you. I'm diving deep into Hims.com – a company that's literally spending half its revenue on marketing and making it work brilliantly. We're talking $182 million in a single quarter, 77% year-over-year growth, and yes, they're still turning a profit. Bu…
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Digital advertising is becoming increasingly competitive and costs are rising. It's crucial that you know how the field is changing and how AI and automation might be the key to maximising your ad spend and increasing your ROAS. In this podcast, I cover: - How to analyse your market's ads - How to create ad creative using AI tools - Why data collec…
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Copy This FLAWLESS Content Marketing Strategy in 2025
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58:24The following is a BONUS EPISODE recorded by the Exposure Ninja team. ---------- Here's what most marketers are missing about content in 2025: while everyone's rushing to implement AI content tools (like copy.ai and Jasper), the reality of what's actually driving results looks completely different. In a recent strategy discussion, three of Exposure…
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How Dave Gerhardt Built a B2B Audience of 200,000+
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49:51We speak with Dave Gerhardt, founder of Exit Five, who reveals how to build a standout B2B marketing community. He breaks down the impact of AI on SEO and content, his no-nonsense approach to LinkedIn content, podcasting as a content strategy, and why Exit Five moved from Facebook to Circle. It’s a sharp look at staying agile and authentic in moder…
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Digital Marketing Predictions for 2025 (HISTORIC Changes Coming)
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43:55Join Charlie Marchant, CEO of Exposure Ninja, and Dale Davies for a deep dive into some bold marketing predictions for 2025. From the meteoric rise of AI search platforms to personalised search results and evolving consumer behaviours, they explore how these shifts will fundamentally change digital marketing strategies. With 45% of US and 29% of UK…
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Should Marketers Embrace SORA, OpenAI’s New Text-to-Video Tool? (Dojo #44)
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24:51In this packed episode, our CEO, Charlie Marchant, and our Head of Marketing, Dale Davies, dissect three major AI developments: OpenAI’s text-to-video tool Sora, Google’s Product Studio expansion, and Reddit’s new AI-powered answer generation system called Reddit Answers. While these tools showcase impressive capabilities, their immediate practical…
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Copy This NEXT-LEVEL GEO Strategy in 2025
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1:04:00The following is a BONUS EPISODE recorded by the Exposure Ninja team. ---------- By 2026, traditional SEO traffic could plummet by 50% as AI transforms how people discover and evaluate businesses online. But here's the opportunity: while most companies are stuck in outdated SEO tactics, generative AI platforms are creating new ways to capture visib…
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For the first time ever, Google lost search users.This signals a fundamental shift towards AI-powered search and marketers need to adapt their strategies now for this emerging reality.The signs were there. ChatGPT's rise. Perplexity's growing user base. And now, Ofcom's data confirms what many of us suspected: traditional search is evolving.Think a…
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Could Google’s First YoY Drop in Users Spell the End? (Dojo #43)
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38:24Google has experienced its first recorded decline in UK users, dropping from 86% to 83% market share, while AI search queries have increased tenfold between January and September 2024. Simultaneously, Google’s AI Overviews are now starting to include YouTube video summaries, marking a significant evolution in search result presentation. For markete…
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AI tools like ChatGPT and Google’s AI Overviews are reshaping how users find information, making Generative Engine Optimisation (GEO) essential for any 2025 SEO strategy. This shift means your strategy must go beyond traditional Google rankings. GEO focuses on optimising content for AI-generated summaries, ensuring your business, products, or servi…
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Are You Falling Into The Sunk Cost Trap? (Dojo #42)
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45:48This week on The Dojo, we dissect the recent collapse of AllPlants, a UK vegan meal delivery service, amidst a massive marketing spend. We analyse their financial data, marketing strategies (social media, SEO, PPC), and pinpoint critical errors. We also discuss the upcoming Black Friday sales frenzy, contrasting brands embracing the hype with those…
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8 Common PPC Mistakes (and How To Avoid Them)
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41:16Head of PPC at Exposure Ninja, Tom Goodwin, chats to Tim Cameron-Kitchen about the main PPC mistakes we see businesses make and how you can fix them or avoid them altogether. Timestamps 00:00 — Intro01:37 — Not Bidding On Your Own Brand07:01 — Ignoring Quality Score13:47 — Spelling Errors16:36 — Sending People to 404 Errors19:58 — Offers That Expir…
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Are AI Shopping Assistants The Next Big Threat to eCommerce? (Dojo #41)
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56:15In This Episode... Welcome to the Dojo, a weekly marketing news podcast by Exposure Ninja. This week, we talk about: Perplexity wants AI to do your shopping for you. What does this mean for retailers? Wicked’s Massive Marketing Campaign Ads in AI Overviews Timestamps 00:00 - Welcome to The Dojo by Exposure Ninja 00:31 - Perplexity wants AI to do yo…
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How to Rank on AI Search Engines with Michael Buckbee
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43:05We speak with Michael Buckbee, the innovator behind Knowatoa, a tool transforming SEO for AI search services. We discuss strategies for ranking on AI-Powered search engines and how Knowatoa enhances rank tracking on platforms like ChatGPT, helping marketers analyze keywords and search intent in this new landscape. We focus on aligning content with …
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ChatGPT Search — The Ranking Factors We Know So Far
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16:17ChatGPT's 200 million weekly active users immediately make ChatGPT with Search one of the most important search engines for us marketers to optimise for.In fact, ChatGPT with Search is just one of a number of new generative engines, meaning generative engine optimisation (GEO) is now an important tool in any marketer's toolkit.So, your next questio…
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Meet me in London at the B2B Marketing Expo 2024
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1:04Join me in London at this year's B2B Marketing Expo. I'll be there across both days and I'll be delivering a talk too, called "AI and the Future of SEO: How to Rank in Google’s New AI Search Results". If you're putting your 2025 marketing or SEO plans together and haven't yet figured out how to navigate the new world of AI Search, then this isn't a…
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Everything We Know About the November 2024 Core Algorithm Update So Far (Dojo #40)
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50:06In This Episode... Welcome to the Dojo, a weekly marketing news podcast by Exposure Ninja. This week, we talk about: How to tap into emotions that increase your content’s viral potential The best times to post on social media to maximise engagement How to create compelling headlines that make people say, “Oh wow, that’s interesting!” What to do if …
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The Best Digital Marketing Strategies for 2025
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35:11Today I’ve got 5 different types of digital marketing strategies to share with you.These are tried and tested strategies that are working right now for Exposure Ninja clients and our portfolio companies. And there’s a lot of variety here, meaning there’s something for every type of business. In today’s video I talk about: Cross-pollination AI Drive…
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ChatGPT Search is using BING?! - Everything We Know So Far... (Dojo #39)
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49:35In This Episode… Welcome to the Dojo, a weekly marketing news podcast by Exposure Ninja. This week we talk about: The Impact of ChatGPT Search on Marketers The Viral Power of Crumbl Cookies Timestamps 00:00 - The Impact of ChatGPT Search on Marketers 32:38 - The Viral Power of Crumbl Cookies What to Listen to Next Why GEO is the New SEO (and How It…
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This podcast episode is sponsored by Semrush. Check out Semrush Local here — exposure.ninja/local Whether you're a large multinational brand with tons of locations or you're a single location business, the world of local SEO is evolving fast and you need to keep up. Not to brag, but the team at Exposure Ninja has won tons of SEO awards, including i…
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Google's AI Overviews to Reach 1 Billion Users by Year-End (Dojo #38)
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40:27In This Episode… Welcome to the Dojo, a weekly marketing news podcast by Exposure Ninja. This week we talk about: A big week for AI… but also some data that puts it all in context IKEA’s new face of gaming Stop calling it SEO Timestamps 00:00 - A big week for AI… but also some data that puts it all in context 16:14 - IKEA’s new face of gaming 27:43…
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We’re joined by Brian Dean, co-founder of Exploding Topics, as he shares his journey of transitioning from SEO education to trend-spotting innovation. We dive into the creation of Exploding Topics, exploring its origins as a side project, the collaboration with fellow entrepreneurs, and the strategic enhancements that shaped it into a successful Sa…
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