Welcome to the Movement Logic Podcast, with yoga teacher and strength coach Laurel Beversdorf, and physical therapist Dr. Sarah Court. With over 30 years combined experience in the yoga, movement and physical therapy worlds, we believe in strong ideas, loosely held – which means we’re not hyping outdated movement concepts. Instead, we’re here with up-to-date and cutting-edge tools, evidence and ideas to help you as a mover and a teacher. Music: Makani by Scandinavianz & AXM
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Join strength and nutrition coach Nikki Naab-Levy for conversations with industry experts that cut through the B.S. and deliver science-backed insights on strength training, nutrition, and conquering fitness with hypermobility.
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Whether it’s anatomy, exploring yoga traditions, or discussing the unspoken aspects of teaching yoga, this podcast is for those tired of superficial yoga narratives. Brea Johnson, founder of Heart & Bones Yoga, a globally recognized online platform for anatomy-informed yoga and inclusive practices for both yoga teachers and everyday people, interviews experts, shares crucial insights and provides education for both yoga students and teachers. Join Brea for real conversations that challenge, ...
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Kathryn Bruni-Young grew up in the yoga community and has been teaching for over a decade. Inspired by her own life’s journey and a passion for helping all people feel more capable and confident in their bodies, Kathryn created Mindful Strength, a method that synthesizes mindfulness, strength training, yoga, movement, mobility, and body acceptance, to inform a well-rounded, embodied practice. This podcast is dedicated to sharing knowledge and fostering curiosity. Kathryn's conversations with ...
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Hosted by Adam Meakins The NAF (Not Another F**king) Physio Podcast promises to be unlike any other! Be prepared for some strong opinions and even stronger language!
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Dr. of Physical Therapy, Caitlin Casella speaks with professionals in healthcare, therapeutic movement and exercise, strength and conditioning, athletic training, and bodywork. Interviews focus on the overlapping layers of health and wellness with belief structures, social engagement, economic and environmental factors, and sustaining robust activity later in life. Questions that drive Caitlin’s work and curation of the Practice Human Podcast examine systemic factors which create barriers to ...
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Yoga Teacher Confessions [Part 2]: Why Yoga Teachers Burn Out, The Truth About Teaching & Fitting In
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30:10What happens when you are the teacher… but still feel like an outsider in your own practice? In Part 2 of this conversation, Ula and Brea get even more real. From being injured students in rigid classes, to struggling with the pressure to look a certain way on Instagram, this is a no-filter conversation on the systems, expectations, and social medi…
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Yoga Teacher Confessions [Part 1]: Our Cringiest Moments, Mistakes, and What They Taught Us
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41:24If you’ve ever taught a class and thought, “What am I even doing?” — you’re not alone. In our first episode together, Ula and Brea share their real, raw, and often hilarious stories from their early days of teaching yoga. From bringing a notebook to class to being completely unprepared for students with injuries, we’ve been there. This is the behin…
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Episode 99: Inbetweenie - Is the Sitting-Rising Test a Lifespan Predictor - or Just Hype?
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34:15In this 'Inbetweenie' episode of the Movement Logic podcast, Sarah delves into the widespread misinterpretation of a 2014 research study titled 'Ability to Sit and Rise from the Floor as a Predictor of All-Cause Mortality.' Popularly known as the Sitting Rising Test (SRT), the study has been sensationalized in the media and on social platforms, cla…
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Living and Training with Hypermobility with Sahara Coleman
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51:40In this episode of Results Not Typical, Nikki speaks with personal trainer and nutrition coach Sahara Coleman about the realities of living and training with symptomatic hypermobility. They explore how these conditions affect daily life, movement, identity and what it means to show up for yourself when your body doesn’t always cooperate. Topics cov…
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259 Dr. Stephanie Carter Kelley: Pain is more than mechanics
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1:01:21We welcome back Dr. Stephanie Carter Kelley for a third time! In this episode Kathryn asks all about pain, and why it can be so complex and about more than just mechanics. Stephanie sheds light on how the brain creates pain as a protection response and how the immune system get's involved as well. They talk about stepping back to look at the whole …
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Episode 98: Capacities for Longevity Part 3: Cardio
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2:25:16In this episode of the Movement Logic Podcast, we dive into cardiovascular health and the role of cardiorespiratory fitness in supporting longevity—especially for women as they age. We break down the science behind moderate and vigorous aerobic exercise, explain how it differs from strength training, and explore why both are essential for long-term…
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How to stop "starting over" with Greg Sutton and Vanessa Zingaro
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39:41In this episode, Nikki is joined by MNU Certified Nutritionists Vanessa Zingaro and Greg Sutton to break down why we struggle with consistency and what to do when knowledge isn't enough to move forward. You’ll learn: Why more information isn’t the solution to reaching your goals if you're struggling with consistency. How to identify and move beyond…
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Episode 97: Stronger Than Ever - BDC Alums Share Their Stories
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1:27:35Welcome to Episode 97 of the Movement Logic Podcast! In this special episode, Laurel and Sarah talk to four women who recently completed the Bone Density Course: Lift for Longevity about their experiences. Whether it’s building strength and stability for hiking and biking, reclaiming confidence in their bodies, or surprising themselves with what th…
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258: 10km Race Recap with Kathryn and Kyle
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41:38Today we are talking about our 10km race last weekend. Kathryn and Kyle talk a little bit about the lead up, balancing training and recovery, and a break down of the run itself. They talk about pacing, why they kept their start pace even when everyone was blowing past them, pre-race carb loading, the taper week and how to challenge what's possible …
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Episode 96: Bone Density Grifters: Introducing the Grift-O-Meter!
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2:49:08In this episode of the Movement Logic podcast, Sarah and Laurel dig into the grift surrounding popular bone health programs, critically analyzing Bones for Life, Bone Coach, and Buff Bones. They introduce the Grift-O-Meter™ scale to rate each program on their misleading tactics and claims about osteoporosis treatment. They conclude by decrying the …
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Episode 95: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly: Navigating Physical Therapy with Dr. Caitlin Casella
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1:10:21In this insightful episode, Dr. Sarah Court sits down with Dr. Caitlin Casella, PT, DPT, to discuss the evolution and current state of physical therapy. Dr. Casella shares her journey from being a full-time yoga instructor to becoming a PT, the transition from yoga to developing her own physical therapy practice, and her thoughts on the business mo…
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The truth about good vs bad muscles with Laurel Beversdorf and Dr. Sarah Court, DPT
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1:13:02In this epside, Nikki is joined by yoga teacher and strength coach Laurel Beversdorf and physical therapist Dr. Sarah Court, DPT to deconstruct the myths around “good” muscles, “bad” muscles, and the idea that getting out of pain requires activating your muscles in a specific order. They cover: Why the “good muscle vs. bad muscle” narrative isn't a…
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Episode 94: Capacities for Longevity Part 2: Power
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1:31:52In this episode of the Movement Logic Podcast, Laurel and Sarah explore why power training deserves a spot in your movement routine—especially as you age. They kick things off by reviewing the different types of strength before introducing the concept of power, breaking down the fact that, yes, there are different types of power too. You’ll hear wh…
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076 Whats The Big Deal About Non Specific Pain
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46:50We are back... again! After a 6 month break, the NAF is back, but this is a little different than usual as it's a shared podcast with The Better Clinician Project Every month, Adam and Ben sit down to discuss a hot topic on the Better Clinician Project on their monthly podcast called Thoughtful Thursday This month's topic is why does the term non-s…
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Episode 93: Should You Avoid Spinal Flexion with Osteoporosis?
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1:21:22In this episode of the Movement Logic Podcast, hosts Laurel Beversdorf and Dr. Sarah Court critically examine common beliefs surrounding spinal flexion exercises and osteoporosis, particularly from a yoga and Pilates perspective. They delve into two pivotal studies on exercise and fracture risk, both led by Dr. Mehrsheed Sinaki, a renowned speciali…
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Evaluating Fitness Trends with Dr. Shannon Connolly
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57:47In this episode, host Nikki chats with Dr. Shannon Connolly, chiropracter and women's strength and rehab coach about the the misleading world of celebrity fitness programs and marketing claims in the fitness and rehab space. Topics discussed: Why “celebrity-approved” doesn’t mean evidence-based How to spot red flags in fitness marketing claims What…
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Running with hypermobility, POTS, & chronic illness with Dr. Kate Bochnewetch
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57:02If you’ve ever been told that running is off-limits because you’re hypermobile, have POTS, or deal with chronic illness, you’re not alone. But is that true? Probably not. In this episode, Nikki chats with Dr. Kate Bochnewetch, physical therapist and running coach, to break down myths, the outdated advice, and a better way to approach running when y…
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Episode 92: Make Dr. Loren Fishman Make Sense
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1:58:17In this episode of the Movement Logic podcast, Laurel and Sarah dissect a recent email they received from Dr. Loren Fishman, in which he expressed frustration over their critique of his study on yoga and bone density. In this episode, they address Fishman's email and take another look at his study, Twelve-Minute Daily Yoga Regimen Reverses Osteopor…
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Episode 91: LIFTMOR, Not Less: An Interview with Professor Belinda Beck
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1:22:34In this episode of the Movement Logic Podcast, Sarah and Laurel are thrilled to interview esteemed exercise scientist Professor Belinda Beck, investigator in the groundbreaking LIFTMOR trial. They discuss the necessity of high-intensity resistance and impact training for improving bone density, comparing it to less effective exercises like Pilates,…
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Welcome to our third solo episode of 2025. Today Kathryn is talking about rest intervals, and why we need them between heavy compound exercises. She also talks about super sets and which exercises you can link together with less rest. We hope these episodes help you understand strength training in more detail and help you become more successful wit…
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Episode 90: Capacities for Longevity Part 1: Strength
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1:47:26We start off Season 6 with Part 1 of our 3 Part series on Longevity. What are the capacities we need to retain or develop in order to continue to live the lives we want to at the end of our lives? In Part 1, hosts Sarah Court and Laurel Beversdorf dive deep into the capacity of strength. We discuss the difference between strength endurance and maxi…
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Episode 89: Inbetweenie - Is Dead Butt Syndrome Real?
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1:03:13In this episode of the Movement Logic Podcast, host Laurel Beversdorf explores the concept of 'dead butt syndrome' or 'gluteal amnesia', debunking both as a non-evidence-based myths perpetuated in fitness and health discussions. Laurel discusses the misleading information in a recent New York Times article titled Sitting All Day Can Cause Dead Butt…
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256: Why writing down your lifts and training is a game changer
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15:30Welcome to our second solo episode of 2025! If you have not already listened to episode 255 we suggest you start there. In todays segment Kathryn is talking about the value of writing down your lifts and keeping track of your numbers over the long term. When you write down your lifts you collect valuable data about yourself, your patterns, and you …
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255: Which exercises should always be in your program, for your goals
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20:38Welcome to Kathryn's first solo episode of 2025! In this segment Kathryn talks about the big mistake a lot of people make when it comes to strength training, which is rotating the exercises too frequently. Building strength means repeating the same exercises over long periods of time. There is a lot patience involved with strength training. Kathryn…
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Episode 88: Inbeteweenie - Evidence-Based Pilates Podcast
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1:20:02In this very special Inbetweenie, we're interviewed by Dr. Adam McAtee, PT, on his Evidence-Based Pilates podcast to talk all things bone density. You will learn: · The 3 aspects that make up bone strength: BMD, bone size, and bone architecture · Catabolism and anabolism across your lifespan · Why Pilates and yoga aren’t going to cut it long term f…
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Episode 87: Inbetweenie - A Mythmas Special: 2 Strength Myths Busted
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34:49In this in-between episode of the Movement Logic Podcast, Laurel discusses two major myths: the longevity significance of grip strength and the role of single leg exercises in improving balance. The discussion touches on the misinterpretations of grip strength's correlation with health and longevity, different types of grip and their training, and …
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Episode 86: Inbetweenie -What the Osteoboost?
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22:20In this in-between episode of the Movement Logic Podcast, Sarah discusses a new product for osteopenia called Osteoboost, a wearable medical device that uses gentle vibrations to improve bone density and strength, offering a non-invasive alternative to traditional treatments. Sarah delves into the research behind the device, its FDA clearance, and …
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254 Laurel Beversdorf: Combining lifting with cardiovascular training, and why we recommend you do both!
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1:00:15In this episode Kathryn and Laurel talk about how they both got into running and what they have learned about cardiovascular exercise. We want to emphasize that you do not need to begin running, there are many ways to build up your cardio including the bike, rower, elliptical machine. In this episode you will learn why strength training and cardio …
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Ep 053: Dr. Leah Humphries | Training for the Season You’re In
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54:46Bio Dr. Leah Humphries is a Physical Health and Performance Coach passionate about empowering individuals to navigate their health journey through movement. Growing up on the bayou of Louisiana, Leah developed a deep-rooted connection to physical activity, exploring various sports, and immersing herself in the natural world. Her journey led her to …
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Navigating fat loss with hypermobility and chronic conditions
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23:12Fat loss can be challenging in general, but it can feel more complex when you factor in chronic condition or symptomatic hypermobility. Fatigue, unpredictable symptoms, and flare-ups add challenges that most “fat loss plans” don’t address. In this episode, I cover strategie and considerations when pursuing fat loss with a chronic condition. This ep…
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Episode 85: Inbetweenie - Boosting Recovery: What Really Works
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32:47In this solo episode of the Movement Logic Podcast, Laurel Beversdorf dives into the topic of exercise recovery. She differentiates between the physiological 'Big R' recovery and the 'little r' recovery, or aggressively marketed “recovery optimization” practices that the wellness industry loves to sell. Laurel discusses how sleep, nutrition, and st…
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5 ways your thinking is sabotaging your fat loss goals
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27:28When it comes to fat loss, your mindset can be just as important as your strategy. If you’ve ever felt stuck, frustrated, or unsure why your efforts aren’t paying off, it might be time to take a closer look at your mental approach. In this episode, I’m breaking down the most common mindset mistakes I see that could be holding you back—and how to fi…
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5 fat loss strategies that are stalling your progress
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30:06If you’ve ever felt like fat loss is more complicated than it should be, you’re not alone. The truth is that it's easy to get tripped up! Even when you feel like you're doing everything right. In this episode, I’m sharing 5 common mistakes I see with clients that might be slowing you down and ways to course correct for each of them. This episode co…
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253 Deb Benfield: Enjoying food and nourishing yourself in midlife and beyond
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41:56Today we welcome dietician and body image coach Deb Benfield for a conversation about finding strength and joy in midlife. Deb talks about the main times in many women's lives that their bodies change quickly, puberty, pregnancy, and menopause. She speaks about how these are moments when we are at higher risk for developing disordered eating behavi…
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Episode 84: Inbetweenie - Trick or Truth? Six Ways to Spot Exercise for Osteoporosis Misinformation
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37:43Welcome to Episode 84 of the Movement Logic podcast! In this Inbetweenie, Laurel and Sarah Court discuss health misinformation and practical tips for spotting misinformation around exercise for osteoporosis, “in the wild”. 00:00 Introduction 01:07 Bone Density Course update 02:22 Continuing the discussion on science and pseudoscience 04:56 Yoga U e…
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